Toyota's REGRET
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Yep read the whole thing on autoblog, I think it was. They think they may end up having to recall all the trucks with 5.7s in them. The bad news may slow the sales around here, seen alot of new Tundras around town
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Originally Posted by slipnotic
Yep read the whole thing on autoblog, I think it was. They think they may end up having to recall all the trucks with 5.7s in them. The bad news may slow the sales around here, seen alot of new Tundras around town
Not too worry about seeing more Tundras around. Toyota is only building 300,000 of them.
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Originally Posted by SMIGGS
Crappy frame?
According to who? According to anyone who knows anything about torsional rigidity, Hydroforming technology and weight/strength ratios. Do your research!!!
Crappy interior, poor ergonomics, poor fit-n-finish
According to who? According to anyone with a Vernier caliper (or a yardstick in some cases) to measure the huge panel gaps.
Overpriced
So paying over 30 grand for any truck is cheap to you? Yep, 30K would have been cheap. But to pay 45K for a Crewmax with less features than my SLT Crewcab that was $37K (after rebates) is overpriced.
As for realibility, if you have some information on this you care to pass on please do so......One word: Camshaft..nuff said
Sounds like just an opinion no facts to back these statements up. How's it sound now?
Now what were you saying about a "stale debate"?
According to who? According to anyone who knows anything about torsional rigidity, Hydroforming technology and weight/strength ratios. Do your research!!!
Crappy interior, poor ergonomics, poor fit-n-finish
According to who? According to anyone with a Vernier caliper (or a yardstick in some cases) to measure the huge panel gaps.
Overpriced
So paying over 30 grand for any truck is cheap to you? Yep, 30K would have been cheap. But to pay 45K for a Crewmax with less features than my SLT Crewcab that was $37K (after rebates) is overpriced.
As for realibility, if you have some information on this you care to pass on please do so......One word: Camshaft..nuff said
Sounds like just an opinion no facts to back these statements up. How's it sound now?
Now what were you saying about a "stale debate"?
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Originally Posted by Vmax2007
Bottom line, The Blundra is an overhyped, overpriced POS that is and always will be a "wannabe" compared to GM and Ford.
what ford or chevy has never had a significant recall??
and considering its new to the market, it aint that bad. pickups,tacomas,t-100's,and tundra have done awesome. best in the imports, tapped into the overall truck market. there going to fix it.
and the over priced pos, will always have a better resale value than your pos.
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From: Minnesota
Originally Posted by freirefishing
lol, give me a break.
what ford or chevy has never had a significant recall??
and considering its new to the market, it aint that bad. pickups,tacomas,t-100's,and tundra have done awesome. best in the imports, tapped into the overall truck market. there going to fix it.
and the over priced pos, will always have a better resale value than your pos.
what ford or chevy has never had a significant recall??
and considering its new to the market, it aint that bad. pickups,tacomas,t-100's,and tundra have done awesome. best in the imports, tapped into the overall truck market. there going to fix it.
and the over priced pos, will always have a better resale value than your pos.
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Originally Posted by freirefishing
lol, give me a break.
what ford or chevy has never had a significant recall??
and considering its new to the market, it aint that bad. pickups,tacomas,t-100's,and tundra have done awesome. best in the imports, tapped into the overall truck market. there going to fix it.
and the over priced pos, will always have a better resale value than your pos.
what ford or chevy has never had a significant recall??
and considering its new to the market, it aint that bad. pickups,tacomas,t-100's,and tundra have done awesome. best in the imports, tapped into the overall truck market. there going to fix it.
and the over priced pos, will always have a better resale value than your pos.
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So whats the skinny on this issue then, is the Tundra frame weak and going to fail under load?
This is just a lame excuse to offset the fact that the Tundra has a superior drivetrain than any of it's competitors.
Oh yeah and it looks ugly!
What is an acceptable panel gap? Do you think that the average Joe off the street actually pulls a vernier caliper out of their pockets and measure the gaps when comparing potential brands of trucks to buy?
Lame excuse #2.
Time will tell if the prices of the Tundra come down. But as of right now, yes, pricey compared to the competition.
Lame excuse #3
One word: Free engine at NO cost to the owner.
nuff said.......LOL......gee, that sounds familar.
Just as lame as before.
Oh please tell us how you really feel.
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Originally Posted by Vmax2007
According to anyone who knows anything about torsional rigidity, Hydroforming technology and weight/strength ratios. Do your research!!!
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
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So whats the skinny on this issue then, is the Tundra frame weak and going to fail under load?
This is just a lame excuse to offset the fact that the Tundra has a superior drivetrain than any of it's competitors.
Oh yeah and it looks ugly!
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
According to anyone with a Vernier caliper (or a yardstick in some cases) to measure the huge panel gaps.!!!.
What is an acceptable panel gap? Do you think that the average Joe off the street actually pulls a vernier caliper out of their pockets and measure the gaps when comparing potential brands of trucks to buy?
Lame excuse #2.
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
Yep, 30K would have been cheap. But to pay 45K for a Crewmax with less features than my SLT Crewcab that was $37K (after rebates) is overpriced.
Time will tell if the prices of the Tundra come down. But as of right now, yes, pricey compared to the competition.
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
One word: Camshaft..nuff said
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
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Lame excuse #3
One word: Free engine at NO cost to the owner.
nuff said.......LOL......gee, that sounds familar.
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
How's it sound now?.
Just as lame as before.
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
Bottom line, The Blundra is an overhyped, overpriced POS that is and always will be a "wannabe" compared to GM and Ford.
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Originally Posted by SMIGGS
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So whats the skinny on this issue then, is the Tundra frame weak and going to fail under load?
This is just a lame excuse to offset the fact that the Tundra has a superior drivetrain than any of it's competitors.
Oh yeah and it looks ugly!
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What is an acceptable panel gap? Do you think that the average Joe off the street actually pulls a vernier caliper out of their pockets and measure the gaps when comparing potential brands of trucks to buy?
Lame excuse #2.
Time will tell if the prices of the Tundra come down. But as of right now, yes, pricey compared to the competition.
Lame excuse #3
One word: Free engine at NO cost to the owner.
nuff said.......LOL......gee, that sounds familar.
Just as lame as before.
Oh please tell us how you really feel.
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So whats the skinny on this issue then, is the Tundra frame weak and going to fail under load?
This is just a lame excuse to offset the fact that the Tundra has a superior drivetrain than any of it's competitors.
Oh yeah and it looks ugly!
[color=red]
What is an acceptable panel gap? Do you think that the average Joe off the street actually pulls a vernier caliper out of their pockets and measure the gaps when comparing potential brands of trucks to buy?
Lame excuse #2.
Time will tell if the prices of the Tundra come down. But as of right now, yes, pricey compared to the competition.
Lame excuse #3
One word: Free engine at NO cost to the owner.
nuff said.......LOL......gee, that sounds familar.
Just as lame as before.
Oh please tell us how you really feel.
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I have said the Tundra has a great drivetrain (pending this camshaft issue). But so does GM.
You got the ugly part correct.
Panel gaps are not just an aesthetic issue, they are an indicator of build quality, specifically related to frame design. (see above).
Funny, how every inferiority of the Tundra is "Lame", but yet 14 hp and 0.7 secs in 0-60 is all-important. Typical Toyoyo Fanboyism at it's finest.
You can even spin a MAJOR issue that requires an entire engine replacement as a "positive" by saying they "get a FREE engine". Like that is some great thing!!! I would settle for nothing less than a NEW TRUCK, because a brand new truck with a replacement engine will drastically affect your beloved resale value. Spin that!!!
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Originally Posted by Vmax2007
Funny, how every inferiority of the Tundra is "Lame", but yet 14 hp and 0.7 secs in 0-60 is all-important. Typical Toyoyo Fanboyism at it's finest.
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
You can even spin a MAJOR issue that requires an entire engine replacement as a "positive" by saying they "get a FREE engine". Like that is some great thing!!! I would settle for nothing less than a NEW TRUCK, because a brand new truck with a replacement engine will drastically affect your beloved resale value. Spin that!!!
I know if my engine went because of a defect in the motor it would be a very big "positive" to get a new engine for free.
How many forums were you a member of again?
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From: Minnesota
Originally Posted by thorseshoeing
Well, yeah. If it doesn't "fail" then what's wrong with it?
Tim
Tim
wow, unreal!!!
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From: Minnesota
Originally Posted by SMIGGS
Where did I state that these #'s are so important. Your the one crunching the numbers and percentages. ( good thing these computers have calculators for your sake ). As for the fanboy comment, thanks for the laugh. If you have alot of time on your hands, and obviously you do, search some of my 800 posts.
So lets just say that the same thing happens to your beloved GMC and you get stuck paying for the new engine without a peep out of GMC. Would you give a rats a** about resale value? ( which I made no comment about in the first place )
I know if my engine went because of a defect in the motor it would be a very big "positive" to get a new engine for free.
How many forums were you a member of again?
So lets just say that the same thing happens to your beloved GMC and you get stuck paying for the new engine without a peep out of GMC. Would you give a rats a** about resale value? ( which I made no comment about in the first place )
I know if my engine went because of a defect in the motor it would be a very big "positive" to get a new engine for free.
How many forums were you a member of again?
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From: Right Behind You
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
Are you serious? Do you really think the frames job is simply to hold everything together and not break?
Tim