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Old May 30, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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i own a '49 F2 and have the opportunity to purchase a 66 pickup relatively cheap. The body of the truck is in real rough shape, but the motor tranny and rear end were all recently rebuilt. All i know about the truck is that it is a 352 with a 3 spd, i don't know if that is ST or AT. I would liek to know what rear end could be in the truck along with the tranny.

I would purchase the truck to swap the motor and tranny into the '49 along with the rear end. I need to know if this is feasable and can be accomplished relatively cheap and easily.

Thank you in advance and your help is greatly appreciated.
 
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Old May 30, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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More than likely 3spd manual with a 3.25 rear.
 
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Old May 30, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ilpadrino113
i own a '49 F2 and have the opportunity to purchase a 66 pickup relatively cheap. The body of the truck is in real rough shape, but the motor tranny and rear end were all recently rebuilt. All i know about the truck is that it is a 352 with a 3 spd, i don't know if that is ST or AT. I would liek to know what rear end could be in the truck along with the tranny.

I would purchase the truck to swap the motor and tranny into the '49 along with the rear end. I need to know if this is feasable and can be accomplished relatively cheap and easily.

Thank you in advance and your help is greatly appreciated.
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A 3 speed is a manual transmission. In 1965, two 3 speed tranny's were offered, a 3 speed fully synconized, and a 3 speed with overdrive. The rear axle should be a Ford 9 inch. Ratios are usually 3.54-1 or 3.70-1 with a manual transmission.


Recently rebuilt? Rebuilt how? What does that mean? Why would someone spend thousands of $$$ rebuilding a vehicle with a rough body? Ask for receipts before laying out the hard earned green. What one man's definition of rebuilt is, may be something quite different to another. No receipts? Then it's time to reconsider making this purchase.


It certainly is feasible to make this swap, but nothing is cheap anymore.

 

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Old May 30, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Bill, mine had a 3.25 geared rear with the 3spd. and from what I've read on here it was common, right? His is a '66 if that makes any difference, since you mentioned a '65.
 
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Old May 30, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Bill, mine had a 3.25 geared rear with the 3spd. and from what I've read on here it was common, right? His is a '66 if that makes any difference, since you mentioned a '65.
I've decoded about 50 1965-66 VIN's here...not one had a 3.25-1. All have been 3.54/3.70/3.89's. Any rear axle code be special ordered at no additional cost, and certain regions will have certain ratios. When dealers ordered new vehicles for inventory, new trucks shipped to say, Colorado will more likely have a lower rear end ratio than those shipped to Kansas.
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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the motor was rebuilt with a fresh pistons, gaskets, cleaned up heads, rebuilt carb, and a fresh exhaust.

The rear end has new ring and pinion gears in it, he said it with factory gearing.

The guy started to work on it for a rat-rod project but he said a better deal came around.

The truck is only $800, so it would be a nice deal as long it was in decent working order.
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
I've decoded about 50 1965-66 VIN's here...not one had a 3.25-1. All have been 3.54/3.70/3.89's. Any rear axle code be special ordered at no additional cost, and certain regions will have certain ratios. When dealers ordered new vehicles for inventory, new trucks shipped to say, Colorado will more likely have a lower rear end ratio than those shipped to Kansas.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by 66 POJ
Can you guys help me out? It is a '66 F-100 long bed. I can not make out some wording on my plate but here is my stampings......

F10YE862675
129 M F101 E81 C17
04200 172 4000 21

I've ID my vin but my book does not list a Y as a motor id for a '66. Says Y started in '67 as 352. I'm really interested in the color code, I believe it was originally White. It is Rattle Can Black right now with Blue, Red and White under that.Thank you!

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

This is what you told me...........

F10: F100 4X2

Y: ?? (1967 352 2V)**

E: Mahwah NJ Assy Plant

862675: Numerical Sequence of Assy 1966

129: Wheelbase

M: Wimbleton White

F101: F100 4X2

E: Red Crush Vinyl, Red Pattern Woven Plastic (Custom Cab Only)

81: Custom Cab

C: 3 Speed Manual

17: Ratio 3.25-1 Ford 9" WDM

04200: GVW

172: Net HP 352 V8 (172 net HP @ 4000 RPM)

4000: ^^see above^^

21: Sold from Atlanta District Office

**Y engine code is prolly a mistake made by the Mahwah NJ assembly plant. Your truck may be one of the last assembled, the person stamping the plates, may have glanced at 1967 engine code figures.
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Yall know that I aint got any books and can't read if I had them, but it has been my experience finding 3.25 rears behind FE 3spds and 3.00 rears behind FE autos. Just back yard knowledge, no argue with the dummy and his books.

John
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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No arguing John, just consistency needed. Maybe he told me wrong on mine?
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 66 POJ
No arguing John, just consistency needed. Maybe he told me wrong on mine?
Waal...I guess I did decode one....no one can remember everything. Even NumberDummy makes a mistake now and then. The last time was in 1979...when I married that itchbay...

The mistake was my memory, the axle code is correct.

I'm sorry... can I go now? slinks away licking wounds...


EDIT: That was one of my early VIN decodes...I've since learned that Y was used for the VIN engine code on 352 V8's in 1966's.
 

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Old May 31, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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No problem Bill, I just wanted to point out what had been decoded on mine and to make sure it was right.
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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would the 352, tranny, and rear end swap work well in a '49? Would it be worth it purchase the truck for use as a donor vehicle?

I don't really have much experience with old trucks, most of what i build are jeeps, quads, and dirt bikes.
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ilpadrino113
would the 352, tranny, and rear end swap work well in a '49? Would it be worth it purchase the truck for use as a donor vehicle?

I don't really have much experience with old trucks, most of what i build are jeeps, quads, and dirt bikes.
While those parts can be made to fit, they are not bolt up.
If you need a pulling engine, the FE is an excellent choice, for a street rod there may be better choices. IMHO

John
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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If I was gonna put a newer drive train in an old truck I would go with something with EFI and an EOD tranny.Just a thought...
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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i had a 50 f1 with a mild 390,c6 and 3.90 9" posi. it was alot of fun and a handful to drive.needed alot of stopping room, never up graded the front brakes from oem. when you jumped on it you needed what seamed like a mile to stop.

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