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Old May 22, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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mid engine mud truck

what do you have to do change the gear sets to get it to work right. anyone ever build one?

Can you buy reverse cut gears so it will go forward in drive...?


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Old May 23, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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wazzat?........
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 05:15 AM
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well if you spin the motor and trans around in the frame to get the motor in the back of the truck how do you get it to move the right way. if you were to just hook up the drive shafts it would go backwards in drive.....
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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Flip the axle...
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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come on it can't be that easy....can it...
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 05:31 AM
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Well, it will put the ring - gear on the other side of the housing - so it should.... but then again, my brain is fried, so maybe it isn't that easy. But in this sleep deprived state - I am pretty sure it is
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 05:33 AM
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I think you are right ....cool.
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 05:53 AM
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but you will be running on the coast side of the gear, because you are spinning the shaft backwards.....how long would that last?????

I did a little thinking...after a few cups.
 
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You would - given they harden it equally on both sides of the teeth... the same I assume.

No different to going in reverse.
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 06:02 AM
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except it would be pushing the gears apart instead of pulling them together.....Big tires, mud and lots of hp might not last that long.....thinking someone must make a ring and pinion set for this application
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Why over think it, and make it so difficult? The answer is actually it is in the transfer case. Companies like "pro-Fab" machine make quick change aluminum counter rotating cases for mid engine applications. It would be close to impossible to just flip an axle. If you flip a front axle, the diff would be on the wrong side, and would actually need to be centered, and the rear would have to be offset, the caster on the knuckles would be way off, and the pinions would never lube. Brakes would have the bleeders on the wrong end. Too much would have to be done to try to make that work, and it would be a hack job at best.
Some guys move the engine and trans back, along with the body. This serves two purposes, 1. it changes the weight distribution considerably, and 2. improves approach angle. Depending on the truck, and engine / trans / case combo, could mean that the same length driveshaft for the front and the rear could be used. Carrying one spare shaft is always nice. Two of them take up so much space.
PLenty of work, just buy the right parts to do a clean job, and you will be pleased with the end results.
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Hey...whats a mud truck? I'm from California, we don't have mud, lol. Our idea of off-roading is parking in the dirt at the county fair. Fill me in.
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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http://www.newengland4x4jamboree.com/mud_running.htm
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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War Wagon:
We have more mud than you can handle year around right here in So.CA. One of our off road parks is in a reservoir. It always has water in it, and the level is always changing. Makes for real interesting mud, and tons of it. Lots of 44 inch tires, and plenty of horsepower, many guys trailer them in from a good ways away.
PM me, and i will invite you next time we head out......

I apologize, you can have your thread back.....
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Flip the axle and the vent becomes a drain!

Just slide the engine and trans assembly back.
Shorten the rear driveshaft and lengthen the front (be sure to set up the shafts properly).
 
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