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I have gone from the 7.3 forum to the 6.0 forum, because of my purchase of an 07 6.0. Very happy w/the truck. On the 7.3 forum everyone raved about dp tunes. I see that dp also writes tunes for the 6.0, I was wondering if anyone has tried them?
Tuner of choice for the 6.0 is SCT XcalII with custom tunes, call Matt at LIPD www.lidiesel.com they are FTE sponsers. Matt (PSD 60L Fx4) is the leading perfromance guru for the 6.0
LIPD hands down on the 6.0 stuff. You won't be sorry with the customer service you will receive using LIPD, should a problem arise. They are also regular posters and sponsors of this site, and are not "transparent" after the sale. They have a pretty good deal on the SCT xcal II and a 3 pod gauge package. Heck, Matt will even prewire them for you for a nominal fee, to make the install more painless on your end. (mine were less than 2 hours including drilling/tapping the exhaust manifold and removing, drilling/tapping, reinstalling the intake elbow.
Thanks for the info! What exhaust mods would i need to run one of matt's tow tunes? My fiver weighs about 11,000 pounds.
Best bet is to ask Matt, but rule of thumb is you can run with stock but a turbo back or cat back will lower EGT wether towing stock of tuned. If you go with an exhaust, MBRP is the preferred choice around here.
Matt will write the program for your truck as it is outfitted and your driving and towing needs.
blackhat620 has the details covered for you there.
Our Heavy Tow and new Tow Economy run lower EGT's than stock, but an exhaust system is always recommended for fuel economy and exhaust scavenging even if not for EGT purposes. The engine will always perform better with an efficient exhaust system over the restrictive stock setup.
I have gone from the 7.3 forum to the 6.0 forum, because of my purchase of an 07 6.0. Very happy w/the truck. On the 7.3 forum everyone raved about dp tunes. I see that dp also writes tunes for the 6.0, I was wondering if anyone has tried them?
We have 2 options for the 6.0 tuning. One is the SCT Xcal 2 and now the New Edge Evolution II. The Evo is nice and comes with the look alike Attitude mount. it has everything you need. EGT probe is included. We have sent out several of these systems. Everyone is highly impressed with the looks and functions of the New Evo II. Jody can also custom tune it to your specific needs. Give us a call for pricing and details about getting the custom tunes.
Diane
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We have 2 options for the 6.0 tuning. One is the SCT Xcal 2 and now the New Edge Evolution II. The Evo is nice and comes with the look alike Attitude mount. it has everything you need. EGT probe is included. We have sent out several of these systems. Everyone is highly impressed with the looks and functions of the New Evo II. Jody can also custom tune it to your specific needs. Give us a call for pricing and details about getting the custom tunes.
Diane
Diane,
It is my understanding the the Edge EvoII does not allow the amount of custom programming that the SCT XcalII does, is that correct?
Also it is my understanding that with the Edge EvoII a custom tune cannot be written and emailed to the Edge EvoII user like it can with the SCT XcalII, do i understand the abilities of the Edge EvoII correctly as compared with the SCT XcalII?
Does the Edge EvoII have the ability to turn of the EGR valve like the SCT XcalII does?
Thank you
Last edited by blackhat620; May 22, 2007 at 12:50 PM.
It is my understanding the the Edge EvoII does not allow the amount of custom programming that the SCT XcalII does, is that correct? No just the opposite
Also it is my understanding that with the Edge EvoII a custom tune cannot be written and emailed to the Edge EvoII user like it can with the SCT XcalII, do i understand the abilities of the Edge EvoII correctly as compared with the SCT XcalII? This capability is being worked on. Should be very soon.
Does the Edge EvoII have the ability to turn of the EGR valve like the SCT XcalII does? Jody can do the same things he can do with the SCT but more.
Thank you
You're welcome!
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It is all done 3 dimentional (our's) instead of 2 dimentional (SCT's). There are alot more tables that Jody can adjust with the software he uses as opposed to the SCT software.
You will need to discuss with him exactly what he does.
The Xcal 2 is still a very popular item. We use it alot on the newer stangs.
Diane
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That is interesting, as i know Matt at LIPD uses 3-D modeling when he writes programs for the SCT. Also the SCT data bases and parameters were much larger and much more complete for the 6.0L than the Edge data bases i have seen for the 6.0.
Maybe Jody is just more comfortable with writing programs with the Edge software than the SCT software.
All of the SCT software is only 2 dimentional. It is not designed to handle 3d. The actual engineer who wrote the SCT software told Jody that over the phone a year and a half ago when I was down there for their basic gas tuning class. There has been no updates to the software. Jody checks for updates weekly. We have been an SCT dealer since 2005. If they made changes to that we would know about it.
The software that we use is our software. We will be using a new software soon that has even more tuning capabilites.
Diane
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Last edited by DP-Tuner; May 22, 2007 at 06:47 PM.
All of the SCT software is only 2 dimentional. It is not designed to handle 3d. The actual engineer who wrote the SCT software told Jody that over the phone a year and a half ago when I was down there for their basic gas tuning class. There has been no updates to the software. Jody checks for updates weekly. We have been an SCT dealer since 2005. If they made changes to that we would know about it.
The software that we use is our software. We will be using a new software soon that has even more tuning capabilites.
Diane
You can take the data points from any software and drop them in any graphing program Excel, Lotus, even MS Word does basic 3-D graphing. Changing a graph from 2-D to 3-D does not change the data points.
All 3-D graphing does is take the same data as 2-D and let you look at in in 3 dimensions. This is just a visual tool for the programmer (or anyone analyzing graphs, it allows you to overlay graphs and look at them in 3-D or 2-D whatever the preference of the person analyzing the graphs), and has no effect on the way the Tuner or PCM operate. The PCM only gathers the data points from the sensors in the engine and adjusts the parametes as the software tells it to do. The PCM does not compare the data in 3-dimensions to make its adjustments to the motor.
Been using data and graphs for to many years, and tend to personally use 2-D more than 3-D do to speed and if there is anything i want to look at in 3-D it is easy to do with any graphing software. Generally use 3-D graphs to show the laymen something as most people who don't deal with graphs on a daily basis don't visualize as well in 2-D.
So it appears to me that there are no additional parameters that can be tuned in the Edge that cannot be addressed in the SCT. The data points are all the still the same wether you look at them in 2-D or 3-D.
Yes software can be as complex or as easy as you want to be. Coming from over 20 years in the IT/software biz Jody knows exactly what your referring to. I see him do it everyday.
Diane
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