Does anyone know where I can get computer work and performance parts for a Detroit Series 60?

I KNOW folks hot-rod these things; I just can't figure out where they get the work done.

-blaine

 

Surprisingly, the first step is a dealer/shop to get the computer reflashed. Then, they may help you out with injectors & turbos & other little stuff.

 

The dealers can do one thing and one thing only: The EPA-mandated reflash, and they configure it with the weakest HP possible. This steals over 100 HP from the truck.

I want that HP back. I didn't cough up $10,000 to rebuild a 470 HP engine into a 350 HP engine.

-blaine

 

600hp would be a little better though. Not very fair that Cat & Cummins boys get modules for theirs, and Detroits dont. I think there is a module out on the market for the '60, but I just cant remember who had it, or where I saw it.

 

First thing....................sell,sell,sell.......and go buy a cat

Naw really, What part of the country you in? I know some people in the atlanta,ga area that can get you back to where you wanna be. If not around here, my only suggestion is to make good friends with someone who has the software for your truck, The dealer does what they do because they are required to by law. But like anything else, find the right mechanic at the dealer and........money talks!!! The whole problem I've always had with the 50 and 60 are that they never were manual inj. engine platforms, the engines were designed for fuel efficiancy not high output. The other problem you have is that the only scanner that will change it is the ddec software system, your standard link tools won't change the parameters. The other thing you need is the system passcode. If you have been to the dealer you should have that, they use a default from factory(usually 4 to 6 zeros)unless the owner requests it to be changed(or the last mechanic in the system was an A-hole).

Let me know where ya are.

 

And pay $50 for a $30 filter with a CAT sticker on it? Uh... NOT!

That's the problem... I don't know anyone who does. One of the downsides to having an otherwise flawless engine is that you don't know who to go to when you do finally have a problem.

I base out of Dallas, but can be almost anywhere in the country on a few days' notice. I have all the necessary documentation to prove that *I* am the owner of the engine in question.

-blaine

 

I gotcha, As long as you have the code, you can take the truck to williams detroit, off of moreland ave. her on the east side of town. They will reprogram the engine to what you want, but, it will cost ya and you will have to sign a release waiver. They have started cya in the last few years due to the emissions and fed. regs.

I do know of a place with the equipment to do it in dallas, but I doubt the old boss would allow it in his shop.

To get the real power you want from it you need to take it to southern truck. Call them and chat,see what he can offer you http://www.insiderpages.com/b/3713148729
He's a cat/cummins specialist but he has the know how and tools to soup the 60.

 

Excessive cost isn't a problem. Got a ballpark? Neither is a waiver a problem. *I* own this engine, and I'll make those decisions. When the EPA starts paying for the fuel, they can say what happens with it.

What can they do? I'm guessing injectors and turbo? I've already got about the biggest cam that Detroit makes for the S60, unless one starts playing with the marine version parts, which I'm not opposed to.

-blaine

 

You racin? Or haulin?

Southern truck, does all make and model repair and maintenence. But then there is the night life. He specializes in diesel drag. He's the real competition for jeff garmin in the south east.

For what he can do, about the only things that can be done to the 60- Reflash ecm, or change ecm to a higher horse version(depending on ddec system version....2,3,4,or new 5), Raise wastegate pressure(possible overboost problems), Install specialty injectors(larger orifices), raise fuel rail pressure, you already know of cam alterations(not sure what he'd reccomend), and about the only other thing to be done would be to play with the overhead(the timing can be slightly alttered with the adjusment of the valves and inj. height settings).

Price- I can only imagine The last 60 we had was totalled in anniston,al in 01. We've stayed with cat/cummins since then. We never did too much to "hotrod" any of the 60's we owned other than electronics changes. I know the detroits own the fuel mileage game, but I like a truck that will pull regardless of what it's pulling and cruise around 80 when it's doing it so we are very partial to the 3406b/c engines and the n14's. We have the computer system for the older cummins so I can do as I please with them. And about $3500 will take a 425cat to right around a 575cat, add $1500 for a rear gear change and the truck will outrun anything on the top end.

I'll call a friend tommorrow and see what he reccomends, might be able to do some of the work yourself if he can get me part numbers.

 

I'm haulin'. WHAT I'm haulin' is left to the imagination of the reader.

I took great pleasure in quietly slipping into the left lane and haulin azz up a 6% grade, blowing by most of the "large cars" with all the lights and chrome. EPA took all that away. Until I had the injector calibrations tweaked, it wouldn't maintain speed up a 3% grade *EMPTY*. So you can imagine what kind of frustration I'm dealing with. Indeed, I'm about half convinced that the entire purpose of the '94-'02 overhauls is to so terribly reduce the performance on the motors that one is forced to sell/trade/dispose of an otherwise functional piece of equipment, JUST to get a marginally cleaner, and MUCH more expensive (and much harder to fix) motor.

The ECM calibration I was given is a 485HP/1550TQ calibration.

Good to know that I can tweak the timing with the overhead; that may be what they did in the overhaul, if what I was told about the new settings is true. Looks like I may have some interesting times ahead. It *IS* nice to know there are some avenues for performance. I was beginning to think I was condemned to a POS motor.

Detroit told me that nearly all of my "performance issues" could be fixed by changing my old injectors. However, I have major problems with this idea, given that the truck ran acceptably well BEFORE the overhaul, on the same injectors. IF new injectors are so necessary, I think they should require them to be done as part of the overhaul process (i.e. no injectors = no overhaul). To say nothing of the cost...

-blaine

 

http://www.tstproducts.com/index.asp...PROD&ProdID=76

 

That's suuuuuuummmmm good info right there luke. Thanks, Bout to put the old volvo back on the road and the ol' n-14 could use a boost more than the comp tweak we have now.

 

one place to get it www.4statetrucks.com look for the pitsburg power programer its good for and extra 200-250 hp the pricetag will scare ya tho dont say i didnt warn ya!! they work on the big 3 cat,cummins ,detroit. whats realy nice is you can remove them and the dealer wont know it was ever there

 

Well, the dealer knowing what is and isn't there isn't much of a concern on a truck that's 12 years old with 1,110,902 miles on it.

I'm a little leery of a device that does little more than fool the ECM with "modified" sensor signals (pricetag notwithstanding). I'd rather fix what's wrong with it first.

-blaine