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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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loud squeal with speed

Hey all... i'm new here and just got this old beater truck. Now in all honesty i have not inspected the breaks yet - that is my task tomorrow. However, I have a loud squal that increases its repetitiveness with speed, and with break pressure it stops. Seems to me this would be the pads maybe worn the h@!! out but i dont know. Anyone have any other suggestions to check.

Its an 81 4wd 250 super

Thanks all and i'm happy to finally be a ford guy.
 
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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sounds like brakes to me but maybe another culprit might be the power steering pump. welcome to the forum it is a good place to find stuff out about your new ride.
 
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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alright the pump seems to be working because my pwr steering works GREAT... i'll check brakes - i spent all day wiring up a red light bar instead of checking brakes lol
 
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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I'd check and see if any of the belts are loose or stretched.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 04:23 AM
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well they did not seem loose or stretched but sure enough the other day i revved the hell out of it in park and heard the squeal. so i guess i'll go buy a new belt... i think .its only got 2 of 3 belts... so i'll replace them,
 
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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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cut the wheel hard last night and it squealed so pwr steer pump may be another culprit...
 
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Old May 19, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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I'm dealing with the exact same problem with my 86 F-250. I replaced the belts, then the pump went out. I replaced the pump, then the cooler line leaked. Replaced that, then the high pressure hose went to poo. Now the belts are squealing again. The next step, after new belts, is a .45 FMJ slug in the truck if the belts do so much as squeak!

One thing I've learned about the belts is that they need to be re-tightened after a couple of days. Franklin2 pointed that out to myself and others, they are not tighten and forget pieces. Also, before you put in a new belt, clean the pulleys really well on the power steering pump and crankshaft and make sure there isn't anything on them that'll cause the belts to jump like a groove or ridge inside them.
 
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Old May 19, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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so you think like spraying some gunk for belts in there to lube them, then retighten?
 
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Old May 19, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Some guys don't like it, but belt dressing has always worked well for me. Also remember these older belts need about a half inch of defelction in them. Measure the deflection on the long run of the belt.
 
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Old May 20, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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I'd try some belt dressing just to see if the noise quits. I'll probably come back in a week or so, but the belt dressing might be useful to identify the problem.
 
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Old May 20, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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another 2 cents worth. Don't tighten the belts to tight or you will put undue pressure on the bearing in the pump and it will go out. I tighten mine to the point there is about 1/2 inch of movement in the belt. I made the mistake of just tightening the he[[ out of it and the pump didn't last a week. good luck capt.
 
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Old May 20, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptGuz
cut the wheel hard last night and it squealed so pwr steer pump may be another culprit...
Did you cut the wheel completely to one side or just turn it fast?

If I turn my wheel to the max (either side) it starts squealing. I wouldnt say anything is wrong with my PS as I consider this to be normal and okay. It ONLY squeals when I ping the wheel out and not during normal operation, so I just avoid turning it to it's maximum..
 
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Old May 20, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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i turned it to max, or if i jerk the wheel ... it will also do it ... truck is wore out so i know i got a lot to do - i'm sure eveutally i'll replace the ps pump
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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i turned it to max, or if i jerk the wheel ...
With the wheel on full lock there is maximum pressure inside the P/S pump which can sometimes lock up the pump and cause the belt to slip/squeal.

This is generally bad. If you need to make a turn at full lock, back off a touch to allow the pump to still turn.

Quickly turning the wheel will have a similar effect, rapidly increasing the pressure in the pump to a point whare it stalls and the belt squeals.

Normal action, emphasised with a slightly loose/worn belt.

Squealing brakes can be caused by dry plates between the pistons and the pads. A smear of Kopper Kote (copper paste) on mating surfaces helps here. If they're completely worn out the steel backing plates will be rubbing against the discs/drums. Some manufacturers also include a substance to make the brakes make a noise when they are getting close to worn out.....
 

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Old May 22, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ozstang65
With the wheel on full lock there is maximum pressure inside the P/S pump which can sometimes lock up the pump and cause the belt to slip/squeal.

This is generally bad. If you need to make a turn at full lock, back off a touch to allow the pump to still turn.
Is this a sign of a faulty pump thats going bad? or is it normal?
 
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