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Old May 2, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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I've got an 85 F150 stepside I've been trying to put back together. It was in pretty good shape to begin with but I can't seem to get to the "ahead" part when I seem to be constantly fixing the old stuff that's dying off. At the moment I'm replacing the exhaust/intake manifold (4.9L 6Cyl). New exhaust manifolds are easy to find but intakes, that's a different animal. Had to settle for a used one from Alabama! I get this noise like a "vaccum whistle" (very loud) at express way speeds and sometimes around town only in the morning hours. I've checked everything and it seems to come back to the intake. I've replaced the gasket twice in 3.5 years. I think at high vaccum the gasket is acting like a reed.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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Take it off and put a straight edge on it to see if it's warped. I think you are right, and as the engine warms up, something is swelling up and sealing the problem off.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 12:35 AM
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Thanks for the info. That is why I bought a new exhaust manifold. The only new intake I found was either a fuel injected style or a polished aluminum Offenhauser for $250.00. Hopefully the sed one coming is in good condition.
 
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Old May 4, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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take some carb cleaner and spray differant
spots that may be your leak
if idle changes then you found the leak
when installing new gaskets it is important to
retorque after 5 or so heat cycles
especially a 6 cyl. with this style of exh. and int.
manifolds siamesed together
I have had many problems with the carb to egr to manifold seals
 
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Old May 4, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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I've had this issue with at least two 4.9s. It's a chronic problem with these engines. Both times I've been able to take the intake to a machine shop and have it trued.

Bill,
86 F150 4x4 5.0
 
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Old May 4, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mhg
take some carb cleaner and spray differant
spots that may be your leak
if idle changes then you found the leak
when installing new gaskets it is important to
retorque after 5 or so heat cycles
especially a 6 cyl. with this style of exh. and int.
manifolds siamesed together
I have had many problems with the carb to egr to manifold seals
The problem I've had with the spray tactic is by the time I start spraying the whistle stops thus no more leak. I've even had a real mechanic smoke test it. Same thing.
I will keep in mind the retorque suggestion. Thanks and thanks for the reply.
 
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Old May 4, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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I've had this issue with at least two 4.9s. It's a chronic problem with these engines. Both times I've been able to take the intake to a machine shop and have it trued.

Bill,
86 F150 4x4 5.0
As I said I've got a used intake enroute and a new exhaust inhouse. I just hope the coming isn't as bad or worst. Fortunately I am a machinist and have considered machining the bearing surfaces. The manifold on the truck now does have a visable crack right were one of the bolts/washer grabs it. What a pain. I love the truck, it's a great engine, just wish engineering would have put a little more thought into this part of it.
Thanks for the reply,
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I don't know how much truth there is to this, but I've been told from a couple of sources the problem has to do with the way the intake and exhaust bolt together in the center. I've never tried doing away with that coupling, but would be curious to hear if anyone has tried it.

Bill
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I don't know how much truth there is to this, but I've been told from a couple of sources the problem has to do with the way the intake and exhaust bolt together in the center. I've never tried doing away with that coupling, but would be curious to hear if anyone has tried it.

Bill
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When I bought the truck the gasket between the two manifolds in the area was shot and man was it loud! I actually had to replace that gasket twice because the first time one of the three bolts broke and when I drilled it out the hole got wallowed out so when I retapped it there just wasn't enough metal there for the bolt to hold onto under stress. It wasn't long before that gasket blew again so I took it back off, machined a fresh surface there, drilled and tapped the holes out to the next bolt size (3/8-16 to 7/16-18) and for two years I had a quite truck. I really just like keeping the oil changed, filling the gas tank and driving it. I guess that's too much to ask for when you drive old trucks.
 
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