Problem with 2006 V-10
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Problem with 2006 V-10
A friend of mine has a 206 motorhome on an F-53 chassis with a V-10. On a recent trip, towing his boat, the engine lost power and he was forced to limp home with the engine light on. It has approximately 4k on the odometer. The Ford dealer diagnosed low compression on cylinders 2,3 and 7. They pulled the valve covers and somehow determined that it needs a new engine. He has not gotten a detailed explanation of what was wrong. Is anyone familiar with problems on the new V-10?
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I've heard of one other time something like this happened.
The bolt holding on the vibration damper to the front of the crankshaft stretched, and allowed the timing chain to jump, bending exhaust valves all over the place.
Or, so the story goes. We surmised the guy's dealer did something wrong, especially as they told him to "take it to so-and-so-dealer but don't tell them we worked on it". Which is fishy.
But this being the second time, and being in a motorhome like the first one, is quite interesting.
If anything, PESTER your friend to get a real explanation of what happened. I'd love to know...
The bolt holding on the vibration damper to the front of the crankshaft stretched, and allowed the timing chain to jump, bending exhaust valves all over the place.
Or, so the story goes. We surmised the guy's dealer did something wrong, especially as they told him to "take it to so-and-so-dealer but don't tell them we worked on it". Which is fishy.
But this being the second time, and being in a motorhome like the first one, is quite interesting.
If anything, PESTER your friend to get a real explanation of what happened. I'd love to know...
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We shall see how Ford wiggles out of this one.
Hopefully he'll get a new engine no questions asked.
Art,from info from my son who works at a big Rv dealer on the F53's there have been a few with bad rod bearings show up at around 3k-5k.if they don't have the problem by then ,they run pretty good for their life with no problems.
Yes keep us informed on the cause.
Rich
Hopefully he'll get a new engine no questions asked.
Art,from info from my son who works at a big Rv dealer on the F53's there have been a few with bad rod bearings show up at around 3k-5k.if they don't have the problem by then ,they run pretty good for their life with no problems.
Yes keep us informed on the cause.
Rich
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Originally Posted by FortyFords
Art,from info from my son who works at a big Rv dealer on the F53's there have been a few with bad rod bearings show up at around 3k-5k.if they don't have the problem by then ,they run pretty good for their life with no problems.
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Keep in mind that the engine/drivetrain in the the motor home chassis may not be the same model year as the motorhome. It is not unusual for a chassis/motor/drivetrain to me of an earlier model year or two.
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Originally Posted by captchas
bet the bolt on the damper was loose again and allowed the key way to wear/break off and jumping time bending a mess of valves.
I wonder if the motorhome builder is doing something to the dampers, like changing a pulley diameter for something?
Why would it only happen on the F53?
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Thanks for the comments. He'll push the dealership for a better explanation. He got the feeling that they (Ford) didn't want to talk about it. I'll let you know if we find out anything.
I believe the low compression showed on the scan. They were able to determine that it gets a new engine by removing the valve covers which sounds like the bent valve problem. They are giving him a factory "remanufactured" engine as opposed to a "new" engine. Does anyone have any thoughts on that?
I believe the low compression showed on the scan. They were able to determine that it gets a new engine by removing the valve covers which sounds like the bent valve problem. They are giving him a factory "remanufactured" engine as opposed to a "new" engine. Does anyone have any thoughts on that?
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I imagine the specs for re-manufacturing are the same as build new. I wouldn't worry about it, personally, unless ti could be proven that the re-manufacturing process is sub-standard to new build specs/tolerances.
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Thanks again for the comments. Apparently Ford does practice good customer service. The dealer got the new engine from the factory in two days and it is installed. They are supposed to run it today and he should have it back next week. still no specific reason stated for the problem other than "manufacturing defect"
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I just read, on another site about a guy and his V-10 in a Class C MH that through a rod, and Ford refused to fix it, for 2 reasons, #1) he hadn't changed the oil in over 6K miles, and I think his book said every 3K. And #2) he lost oil pressure, and went ahead and drove it 2 miles (his words) home. I think hes SOL. And not to smart.
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Threw a rod!? A connecting rod?! Doubt it. Usually the term "threw a rod" denotes a pushrod of which the V10 has none.
6K on oil is quality nothing. 7,500 is a common change interval on a lot of engines. 5k is ours. Now, driving without oil pressure is silly. I thought the engine wouldn't run if it couldn't detect minimum oil pressure but I could be wrong.
6K on oil is quality nothing. 7,500 is a common change interval on a lot of engines. 5k is ours. Now, driving without oil pressure is silly. I thought the engine wouldn't run if it couldn't detect minimum oil pressure but I could be wrong.
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I mentioned this because its such an unusual occurrence these days, and yes it was a connecting rod. And I have never heard of this happening to a V-10. But back when I was a kid, it was more common.
I went back and reread the post, it was in a 99 E-450 MH with 42K on it at the time, and was covered by an extended warranty, but denied.
If you would like to read it your self its on RV.NET under Class C Motorhomes, the name of the post is "Blown Engine" the author, or user name is (bumbaloughrv) and its currently on page 5, or you can search his user name and pull it up. There are 5 pages of posts about this "Blown Engine" topic.
Mike.
I went back and reread the post, it was in a 99 E-450 MH with 42K on it at the time, and was covered by an extended warranty, but denied.
If you would like to read it your self its on RV.NET under Class C Motorhomes, the name of the post is "Blown Engine" the author, or user name is (bumbaloughrv) and its currently on page 5, or you can search his user name and pull it up. There are 5 pages of posts about this "Blown Engine" topic.
Mike.