[QUOTE=ag30265]But jr. has?!?!?!?!?!?!?


<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="100%">Wow, this is news. IMHO DEI should get JR signed first and foremost because without him, they are nothing.


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Ya'll have to look at the other side of this, without dei jr. is nothing.


ahhhh no, have to disagree. JR. with or without DEI will be a primary driver for any team, any team would love to have him.

if anything driving for DEI has been a distraction because of step mommy

 

Don't look at what theresa is doing to keep dei afloat...........look at the fact that she built that company from the ground up.............go ahead, look it up.

There are several teams that would love to have jr.

Yes, there are............but it's not for the driving talent. As stated before it wouldn't matter if jr. crashed on the first lap of every race, bud isn't going anywhere and neither are the fans, which are there because of sr..........period.

The overall point I was trying to make is that dei is a filler team. Regardless of who owns them they will never be a great contender team like, hendrick,childress,roush. I'm not sure anyone will ever be as good as them.........they didn't just find the top, they figured out how to stay there, much like the ...............patriots.


If I were theresa, I'd find/buy me a driver with talent and give 'em the world and then..........I'd go ask jr. why he can't do the same thing with the same equipment.

Anyway, the one I feel the worst for here is Rudd. If he could get the equipment and the backing he could do the same as jeff burton(perfomance here lately). I feel he is the cleanest and most talented driver(next to stewart) on the track, he has simply never been the front man of any team. I'm surprised he went back to yates after what yates did to him last time, but he is now the front man and what is yates doing..........jumping ship and running.

Sorry If I offended any of the jr. fans but I calls it like I sees it!

 

I agree that DEI without Jr. is a museum. Nothing more, nothing less. He either gets what he wants from DEI or he leaves. It would be foolish not to give it to him. Bud will give him everything he want or needs for a team. Him and budweiser are going through thick and thin.

I personally hope Jr. goes to drive for RCR. The same one the Sr. was with. Why didn't Sr. just drive for himself if his equipment was SOOOOO great. Personally, DEI has got some good people working for them, but I don't think they are the caliber that RCR and some of the other teams are.

The only reason I think DEI was worth anything was because of the info that Sr. had gotten along the way. I doubt Jr. could build a team from scratch and suceed.

Now I was a Sr. fan since I was little and before Dale Earnhardt was even a star. I have a picture of he and I setting on a table at a tiny local race track and I am getting his autograph which I still have.

Anyway, I have all but quit watching NASCAR because it is so pathetic now. They have turned NASCAR into the IROC series and I refuse to watch this joke they call racing.

I do continue to cheer for harvick...only because he is more of my age, and he took over Sr's car.

I personally hope NASCAR falls on it's face. It is such a joke same motor, same tranny, same tires, same gears, same shocks, same gas,.........in fact I have yet to see much different other than actual race setup (shocks and the like) and the decals.

I miss the old days when there was good racing and the fast guys won and had 2 laps on 1/2 of the field, after first being wrecked and behind by 4 laps due to a blown tire. They would have to spin out the second place car coming out of turn 4, and then there would be a fist fight in the pits, and no one would have to go to the hauler....you could just bet on a return the next week.

What happened to old school racing. Racing to win, not racing for a sponsor but a sponsor wanting to support you, not because you cared about the money or what you said on the TV/ Radio.

 

Fat chance, 180,000 people (fans) at Talladaga.

I miss the old days when there was good racing and the fast guys won and had 2 laps on 1/2 of the field, after first being wrecked and behind by 4 laps due to a blown tire. They would have to spin out the second place car coming out of turn 4, and then there would be a fist fight in the pits, and no one would have to go to the hauler....you could just bet on a return the next week.

What happened to old school racing. Racing to win, not racing for a sponsor but a sponsor wanting to support you, not because you cared about the money or what you said on the TV/ Radio.[/QUOTE]That was when NASCAR was little. If you want to see that kind of racing, it goes on at little tracks all over the country.

 

Righttttttt. I we all know she had a hand in keeping DEI afloat. My bad, Budweiser came to her wanting to sponser JR. NOT. She had her hand in finding Truex and Menard. ( not world class drivers, but given better equipment, Truex is a proven champion ) We all know it is Theresa Earnhardt savey business sense that has built DEI and kept it afloat. Nothing to do with the name Dale Sr. built in NASCAR and the millions he made.

Have you came to this conclusion on your own? To say Jr has no talent is pretty ignorant. Have you raced in NASCAR? Until you can say that you've raced a full Daytona 500 or survived Bristol or better yet won there, saying JR has no talent is completely laughable.

Wow, another clueless paragraph. How many filler teams do you know, seeing your quite knowledgeable in the business here, can make the chase? How many filler teams can say they have won 3 Daytona 500's. So I guess teams like Yates,Penske, and Ganassi are field fillers also? Better not tell their big name sponsers that.


Better yet maybe Theresa should be asking, why can't I find a sponser? and Dale, why did you leave and take all the money with you?

Yes, we all know that Rudd is the man! I don't question his talent he "could" get the job done. You do realize that Rudd has owned his own team and has been the front man for such teams has Hendrick and DiGard in his day. He went back to Yates because Yates was the only team that wanted him and he is merely a coach for Gililand.

You sure do!

 

ya dono, I know. Hense why I go to our local track, and don't watch Nascar much. They have lost it.

 

Consider yourself lucky. I have to drive over 4 hours to get to any sort of local track.

 

Sorry I touched a nerve there smiggs. Didn't know you were one of many who think jr. is a driving god although he has had a mediocre record and always has a reason he has run bad all day.

And please don't bring daytona and dega into this. Anyone who has had the chance to grow up around a local track and race there knows that there is no real accomplishment in winning either since the invention of the restictor plate.

I'd be completely satisfied if they quit running both and give the races to bristol and richmond, both of which require skill, not aero and a buddy to push. Been to dega several times, the reason people go is the tickets are cheap and the great partys in the field on the side of I-20.

I never said jr. wasn't talented, anyone who knows the history of the earnhardt family knows he's about the only one who got a decent amount of talent in the genes. And once again anyone who knows alittle history on them knows that while sr's talent made the money, theresa made the money make more oney for them. She is the financial brains behind the operation.

I'm sad to here you have such a distance to see a real race.

I'm gonna stop before this pissin match gets heated. I'm a long time sr. fan but I'm not yet sure I can like the chip. We'll see though. I wish him all the best.

 

No nerve touched. I'm not even a JR fan, I respect him for what he does and I would never compare anyone to god.

Right, racing around for 200 laps at 190+, in a pack of 20 cars inches apart without crashing, and winning, is no accomplishment. Everyone is a skeptic and can easily say it's not racing. I'm sure the story would change if they "actually" raced in a NASCAR restrictor plate race.

I find 180 000 people just there for the party and not for the racing alittle hard to believe. It would be a huge mistake for NASCAR to pull Dega and Daytona off the schedule. As a spectator (IMHO) it probably the most exciting "racing" to watch. ( I can watch racing on any kind of track ) Do you find it exciting for the winner to have the field acouple of laps down? Where's the fun in watching that. Might as well be there just for the party.

From one of your earlier posts:

"If I were theresa, I'd find/buy me a driver with talent and give 'em the world and then..........I'd go ask jr. why he can't do the same thing with the same equipment."




I'm disputing this:

"Don't look at what theresa is doing to keep dei afloat...........look at the fact that she built that company from the ground up.............go ahead, look it up"


I know, hopefully when the Sprint Cars come through I can make it.

I wouldn't consider this a pissin' match. Just having a good debate.

 

if you look at stats and the chase numbers, theres a whole lotta talent out there that aint doing much either.

and considering a nextel event sells out a 150k plus track, and sell out every other track, i cant see how it aint "racing" anymore

 

I can solve the entire problem, get rid of NASCAR altogether ...it is WWF on wheels.
There is no racing, the Rance family controls it all....


Play on words with their name.

 

And then what is left? IRL or Indy Car? Two series that are lucky to still be going. Sprint Cars? Would be neat to see it go big time but the facilites are too small and then we would be back into this arguement of it becoming too much about money and so on.

I will just mention F1 even though there is only one race in the US and one race in Canada.

 

I just have to say it-


Dirt is for racin and asphalt is for gettin there.


HAHAHA!!! Most of the best racing I've ever seen was on a 5/8 mile or smaller high banked dirt track. I love the WOO and the (used to be hav-a-tampa) series. Not much good if your not down here but the souther all stars(on dirt) put on a great show.

I don't want any of those series to get as big as nascar but I do wish the tv networks would give 'em a chance(other than speed).

I don't really get into the irl type racing. Been to a couple of 'em at Atlanta MS and they just kinda get in line and ride at 250-300 for a couple hours. I do like the road courses though. From most drivers' perspective they enjoy the road couse's but from the fans standpoint................it sucks, unless you have a tv.

I don't know, here lately I've been getting into straight line racing. I never used to like it cause it was too quick, but I've got an itch for high speed really quickly.

 

Sprint Cars are a blast to watch live. Drag racing was fairly big in the mid 90's but from what I understand it doesn't lend itself well to live TV. Most of the races are taped because of the length of the entire event with the different classes.

I don't mind IRL but there are no real big stars ( besides Danica Patrick and not because she has proven herself a winner ) that the media can exploit like NASCAR. Sponsors love drivers who will give them tons of exposure on and off the track.

 

Sprint cars are great, especially since I live 26 miles south of the track at Knoxville home of the sprint car nationals, aahhhh nothing like the smell of methanol in the evening.