DPFE ...fixed...not replaced...FIXED!
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DPFE ...fixed...not replaced...FIXED!
I decided to try to fix my old original ford DPFE unit...NOT replace...FIX! It worked.
After buying a new NAPA DPFE for the 98, F150,4.6L,2x4, 135K it was still throwing a constant CEL 1410. Drat!
After much diagnosis the new DPFE purchased was "suspect". So, not wanting to buy another new PTFE I decided that it was worth the effort to try to fix the old original metal boxed unit that was throwing codes 0401 and 1401.
Here's how I fixed that DPFE (sorry no pics. I thought it was total folly at the time but it worked):
The body of the PTFE is held together by 6 recessed steel rivets.
Drill rivets out enough (not from the head side) and push the rivets out with a nail punch. DONT drill all the way through the PTFE body as you will destroy some rubber gaskets you will need for reassembly.
Carefully pull apart the 2 body halves.
I noticed lots of white crud (and some black slime) in there and blocked ports.
Used appropriately sized drill bits to clear the ports. To do this set body half in soft jaws of vice, You don't have to be jeweler delicate but don't be rough either.
Carefully pull the ceramic sensor up (round white disk) and soak body halves overnight in a 50/50 water/distilled vinegar solution in a small glass bowl. A dental pic to remove any corrosion in gasket seats helps too.
I propped up the sensor (kind of standing up) and taped so electronic components never touched the weak acid vinegar solution. Be careful no electronic parts touch your acid bath. I hope that makes sense?
Rinse with fresh water and let dry completely (again, not the electrical parts).
Push the round whitish ceramic sensor back into position.
Put 2 outer body halves back together and drill out the holes (no gaskets).
Separate the 2 halves and blew out any junk from drilling.
Install rubber gaskets back carefully and put the 2 halves back together.
Use (6) 1 1/2" bolts and nuts to hold the 2 body halves together (any that fit will do).
Use a little of the Red LocTite on the bolts/nuts so it stays together.
Reinstall hoses and electric clip.
Reset codes.
Go for a drive or 3.
This sounds like a lot of work but its not. Just give it a little care and it might work for you. I spent longer figuring out what to do than actually doing it.
I do not know how long this "fixed" DPFE will last but my plan is to only replace it with the updated version from FORD. I'm going to think twice before I buy anything electrically related from NAPA again.
For those that provided opinions, assistance and diagnostics, I can only say THANK YOU!!! You know who you are and have my utmost admiration, and sincerest appreciation.
I thought somebody might be able to use this information down the road. Just remember your mileage may vary.
After buying a new NAPA DPFE for the 98, F150,4.6L,2x4, 135K it was still throwing a constant CEL 1410. Drat!
After much diagnosis the new DPFE purchased was "suspect". So, not wanting to buy another new PTFE I decided that it was worth the effort to try to fix the old original metal boxed unit that was throwing codes 0401 and 1401.
Here's how I fixed that DPFE (sorry no pics. I thought it was total folly at the time but it worked):
The body of the PTFE is held together by 6 recessed steel rivets.
Drill rivets out enough (not from the head side) and push the rivets out with a nail punch. DONT drill all the way through the PTFE body as you will destroy some rubber gaskets you will need for reassembly.
Carefully pull apart the 2 body halves.
I noticed lots of white crud (and some black slime) in there and blocked ports.
Used appropriately sized drill bits to clear the ports. To do this set body half in soft jaws of vice, You don't have to be jeweler delicate but don't be rough either.
Carefully pull the ceramic sensor up (round white disk) and soak body halves overnight in a 50/50 water/distilled vinegar solution in a small glass bowl. A dental pic to remove any corrosion in gasket seats helps too.
I propped up the sensor (kind of standing up) and taped so electronic components never touched the weak acid vinegar solution. Be careful no electronic parts touch your acid bath. I hope that makes sense?
Rinse with fresh water and let dry completely (again, not the electrical parts).
Push the round whitish ceramic sensor back into position.
Put 2 outer body halves back together and drill out the holes (no gaskets).
Separate the 2 halves and blew out any junk from drilling.
Install rubber gaskets back carefully and put the 2 halves back together.
Use (6) 1 1/2" bolts and nuts to hold the 2 body halves together (any that fit will do).
Use a little of the Red LocTite on the bolts/nuts so it stays together.
Reinstall hoses and electric clip.
Reset codes.
Go for a drive or 3.
This sounds like a lot of work but its not. Just give it a little care and it might work for you. I spent longer figuring out what to do than actually doing it.
I do not know how long this "fixed" DPFE will last but my plan is to only replace it with the updated version from FORD. I'm going to think twice before I buy anything electrically related from NAPA again.
For those that provided opinions, assistance and diagnostics, I can only say THANK YOU!!! You know who you are and have my utmost admiration, and sincerest appreciation.
I thought somebody might be able to use this information down the road. Just remember your mileage may vary.
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Originally Posted by Thudpucker
My apologies but what is a DPFE?
CEL is error codes? Right?
CEL is error codes? Right?
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Originally Posted by tj90
Well I followed your instructions and installed last night. I will let you know how it works out! It seems that the white crud (no idea what it is) interferes with the ceramic sensor. Once its cleaned out, the pressure sensor probably works fine again. THANKS for the tips!
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Originally Posted by HarryZ"
With your instructions, its gotta work, RIGHT??
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A few folks have privately responded that it has worked for them...so your odds appear favorable. It's certainly worth a try.
If possible, can you take some digital pics along the way, and post if you are sucessfull? I can help you get pics uploaded to a server where you can post them here.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by HarryZ"
I've got lot of pics. You wanna see 'm before you tell me where and how to upload 'm? Your email?
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We will discuss posting those pics soon. I will try to pm you.