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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Mustang II spring rate

I've got a pair of springs that I wasn''t gonna use in my MII suspension... but the springs I was gonna use aren't gonna work so I'm not gonna use them...
that makes sense right ???

The springs that I wasn't gonna use (that I'm now probably gonna use) came from a MII and best I can recollect it was a v-6 engine... Is there a way to calculate, measure, estimate the spring weight ?? Is there someone (say a spring/suspension shop that can accurately tell me if I've got 200# springs or 500" springs ??? they're gonna be holding up a 460 so I know I need a heavy spring.... but I don't have a clue what I got.

help ... oh gurus of resistance...

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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Here's a picture Dick sent me awhile ago. It should get you in the ballpark.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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so looking at this picture (so kindly provided by Penn Dick thru Nathan)

one full wrap = one active coil ???

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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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The example formula has 8 coils. So I would think it would be like this:
 
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I vote for 7 in the example

Spring Rate (Also called rate of deflection)
The Ford F1 V8 has a Spring Rate of 235 Lbs per inch and a Front Curb Weight of 1890 Lbs.
 

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I agree with Dick.... although... does the top 1/2 coil and the bottom 1/2 coil equal one active coil ???? research is needed here.... I'm going googling

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Count a full rap as one coil, on the example from the top 0 on the left to the next 0 is one coil.
 
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I found this definition

Active coil
A coil of wire which contributes to the motive force of a spring. In extension and torsion springs, all the coils are active coils. In compression springs, only the coils which show daylight between them are active coils.


well, now... that's a clear as mud...

I'm in agreement Dick... but now I'm so confused I need to look at my springs again.... to be resumed

where is AXRACER when you need him ????? HEY CHUCK !!!

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OK

here's what I think

7 active coils...
 
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By my count.

 
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If the Mustang II coils (5310) still have the coded in color paint stripes on them (some use one, some use two), just go to a dealer and have them look up the spring rates. There were about three spring weights used per engine size (2.3/2.8 V6/302), but since the front ends were basically the same, four, six, or V8, there are only about 5 or 6 springs total. Some are the same as Pinto's, because a Mustang II is the same car under the skin. Now you know why the Mustang purists hate those (1974-78) cars.
 

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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jniolon
I've got a pair of springs that I wasn''t gonna use in my MII suspension... but the springs I was gonna use aren't gonna work so I'm not gonna use them...
that makes sense right ??
later
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John, has anyone here done the MII with a 460 that you can use as a reference? I've done a couple of MII's (not Effies) and had to cut 1-2 coils for the correct ride height. I had to try several sets of springs before I got it right. HINT: save your paint until you get it dialed in...Rod
EDIT: You could install a Volare, they have adj torsion bars!
 

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Look at Eaton Springs site. Some good info there sems like.
 
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