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I'm curious what color the old mid '60's 390's were painted, from the factory. From what I understand, the 2 barrel motors were blue, the "premium fuel" motor was blue with gold valve covers, and the 4 barrel was all gold.
I'm curious what color the old mid '60's 390's were painted, from the factory. From what I understand, the 2 barrel motors were blue, the "premium fuel" motor was blue with gold valve covers, and the 4 barrel was all gold.
Someone set me straight here!
F series trucks: 1965/67 352's were black with gold valve covers, 1968 and later 360/390's were all blue. From 1952 till around 1968, the OHV engine blocks were one color, the valve covers another. The color of the valve covers ID'd the engine size. Ford blue was not standardized till roughly 1967/1968 on all models.
Last edited by NumberDummy; Apr 6, 2007 at 10:40 AM.
I've mostly forgotten, but 1965/66 Mustang 289 2V's were black with gold valve covers, 1961-64 big Fords were black with blue or gold valve covers. I forget which was which. I should know, as I have two 1963 Galaxies, but have chrome valve covers on both. The 1961/64 352's valve covers said F O R D in block letters, the 390's said T H U N D E R B I R D in block letters. The Mercury's are different. One said M E R C U R Y, the other said something else. Don't remember. There was also a plain valve cover. These early covers were rounded. The covers changed in 1965. Originally they were plain, later on they said POWERED BY FORD.
EDIT: 1961/64 352's had blue valve covers, gold was used for 390's.
Last edited by NumberDummy; Apr 6, 2007 at 11:09 AM.
A friend has let me drive his '66 t-bird b/c he is not near it to keep it running. The entire engine is gold and it's got a holley 600. Haven't looked hard enough to find out whether it's a 390 or 428 but it's all original so one of these day's I'll post some numbers to find out.
A friend has let me drive his '66 t-bird b/c he is not near it to keep it running. The entire engine is gold and it's got a holley 600. Haven't looked hard enough to find out whether it's a 390 or 428 but it's all original so one of these day's I'll post some numbers to find out.
The gold engine is not original. I had a 1966 Thunderbird Town Landau style 63E, the engine was black and was a 428 4V. I forget what color the 428 valve covers were. Ford never painted an entire OHV engine gold. Looked it up: 1964/66 390 T-Birds were black with gold valve covers and gold air cleaners.
Last edited by NumberDummy; Apr 6, 2007 at 11:12 AM.
Well either my memory has served me wrong or my friend is not correct in saying the car is completely original. I know for sure the valve covers are gold but I may be and very well could be mistaken on the block. Its been about a month or so since I've run it but next time I do I'll letcha know. I do know that the covers said "thunderbird" and are painted gold. Did the 390 and 428 differ from saying "thunderbird" on the cover or did they both say that in the t-bird?
Well either my memory has served me wrong or my friend is not correct in saying the car is completely original. I know for sure the valve covers are gold but I may be and very well could be mistaken on the block. Its been about a month or so since I've run it but next time I do I'll letcha know. I do know that the covers said "thunderbird" and are painted gold. Did the 390 and 428 differ from saying "thunderbird" on the cover or did they both say that in the t-bird?
I just don't recall if the 428 covers said Thunderbird. I have a ref book by the table on 1960's Ford cars, but the only engine pics inre to T-B's is the 390's. The problem with trying to convince ppl something is right or wrong is very difficult. Some ppl have owned their vehicles for yrs and think....what is wherever is original. PPl get very irate when you try and explain something is different than what's on there.
I just don't recall if the 428 covers said Thunderbird. I have a ref book by the table on 1960's Ford cars, but the only engine pics inre to T-B's is the 390's. The problem with trying to convince ppl something is right or wrong is very difficult. Some ppl have owned their vehicles for yrs and think....what is wherever is original. PPl get very irate when you try and explain something is different than what's on there.
Ya i hear ya, if you got books and you used to be the part # dummy then most likely you know what you're talkin about. I've never driven a 428 before but I'm sure you could probably tell a difference in the feel of that over a 390. The prob is that the engine in this t-bird runs pretty sluggish like it's a wore out engine but it doesn't eat or leak oil. I know it probably has a lotta carbon buildup so driving it would burn off alot of carbon in the heads but one of these days I'll see if i can identify it somehow. It'd be pretty sweeeeet if it were a 428!!
All these factory "color codes" are subject to freaks. If the line had a certain color valve cover on the rack and ran out of a needed color, what do you think went on that engine?? aMP
Last edited by aMoneypit; Apr 6, 2007 at 10:10 PM.
I think the blocks were all black until 65. I have several pics of comp Cobra and HM 427's from 65 and they show black on the block. From 66-73 the darker Ford Corporate blue was used. The lighter blue was used on aircleaners and VC's on the earlier 352's. I used to have a chart from the Galaxie COA but the link is not good any more. It listed every color combo for every year even the Edsels and Mercs.
I think the blocks were all black until 65. I have several pics of comp Cobra and HM 427's from 65 and they show black on the block. From 66-73 the darker Ford Corporate blue was used. The lighter blue was used on aircleaners and VC's on the earlier 352's. I used to have a chart from the Galaxie COA but the link is not good any more. It listed every color combo for every year even the Edsels and Mercs.G.
The truck engines were black till 1968, and the car engines were still black in 1966. Ford blue painted engines across the board were used on all 1968 and later Fords. Some use the lighter blue for aircleaners and valve covers. Some engine paint may be labeled Ford blue, but be careful, it may be the lighter of the two blues, not correct for engine blocks. Have you the books "Fords of the Sixties" or "Mercury Muscle Cars?" There's several color pics showing original pre 1968 engine shots...all the blocks are black, including the 6 bangers. I'm also a Galaxie Club of America member.
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