block Idenification
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block Idenification
I bought this short block off ebaymotors about 6 months ago. It was supposed to be a 360, but it is a 79 which does not make sense since 360 were not made in 79. Also the block has to small freeze plugs where the camshaft retainer bolt holes are supposed to be. The crankshaft is a 2TA which is a 360 but I dont feel safe putting a camshaft in it with out a camshaft retainer plate on. The castings on the block are 79U EDC 6015c I've called every junk yard in the phone book and no answers. I think the 79U is econoline but don't know anything about them. Thinking this was a 360 on its way I also bought a 390 crankshaft for it to stroke it out, but not knowing the duration or the cam retainer mystery I don't want to touch it until I know exactly what I got. If anybody has any insight on this it would be greatly appreciated
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Are you certain the block is a 79? That sure sounds like a early block. The EDC-6015-C casting is a 60 HP block for the 390 hipo. It could have a 59 date code for a 60 block as that's pretty common. What's the 79U and where is it on the block. Is there a date code on the side of the block above the oil filter adapter? Early blocks also used 2 bolt motor mounts vs the later 4 bolt bosses. That's another clue to look for. I don't recall Ford bringing back the EDC reference on later blocks but you never know? Being an early block would also maybe explain the plugs where the retainer goes. Those used a stamped steel timing cover... with a thrust button spring thingy glued on the inside .You can tap the holes and use a later cam retainer plate. Let me know what you find....
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Thanks alot for the knowledge. I looked at the block there is only two bolt holes for the motor mounts, and the 79u is directly above the casting numbers. I looked above the oil filter adapter and did not see any numbers. there is a symbol below the oil filter adapter that looks like a C with an F in the middle of it and right next to it a 1 3 5 7 in a protruded in a circle don't know if that means anything.
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I'm sorry I'm wrong on the block ID. It's a 352HP block not a 390 HP. It's still a hipo block but came stock with a 4.00 bore. The 390 was a 4.05. My error on that sorry. The 390HP was a 61-62.5 then the 406 from 62.5 to 63.5 when the 427 came out. Still a great block and nice piece of Ford history. The CF is for the Cleveland foundry where the block was cast. The circle with the numbers is the casting clock. Those were used to either tell when during the month that batch of blocks was cast. Or what time and shift of the day the block was cast. Sorry on the mix-up....
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Thanks alot for your time. I was wondering what a Hipo block was I've been looking on the internet and not getting that much information. Also can you interchange the crankshafts like with the FE 352,360 and 390. After reading the bore specs you gave me I went out and measured the bore at 4.080 with 30 over pistons in it that would give me a 4.050 before the bore. I went out with a magnifying glass still trying to find soming that could be a date code still no luck.
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it sounds like it is a 390 block. the 390 was a standard bore of 4.05 so 30 over would be 4.08
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A 428 how much horse power do you get out of it, and what is it in.
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Hipo blocks besides thicker cyl walls also had the HD crank saddle area and extra support ribs on the main bearing saddles. The 352HP was the first performance designated FE block. These engines also used the small chamber C0AE-D hipo heads. Chambers are like the new Glidden chamber heads...sorta peanut shaped. Guess Ford had a pretty good design back then..only to be reused today in performance castings.
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Originally Posted by josh85
what do you mean by saddle area
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