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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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This Might Be A Odd Question...

Hey fellas!

I apologize in advance for this question kinda different...


Anyways I'm in a class at college and were rebuilding diesel engines. The only thing is they are out of a agriculture tractors and skid-loaders and what not. Im learning some pretty neat stuff but I was wondering if these engines are anything like our Power strokes... like in a more technical way, and how to maintain or tune up kinda ideas? I guess what i'm asking is how much relation is there between the two?


Brian
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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basic four stroke operation is the same, some similarites, but the computer ***** wont be there. what skool are you in?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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I'm just taking classes are our local tech. Nothing fancy. I was bored and decided to take some classes and i figured i could learn something about diesel in-ards
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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i went through a diesel skool and it was a complete waste of money, only because my teacher spoke broken english and everything was ****ing ancheint, i should have gone to nashville auto diesel
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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haha!! gotta love the teachers that need to be taught themselves (if that makes sense..)
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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I echo imma with a few additions. Still requires compression and heat to provide combustion. Glow Plugs "GP's" Provide heat in a cold start situation. PS's also require a high pressure fuel delivery system, like other diesel engines. the powerstroke high pressure fuel pumps, and there are "8" if you want to call them that are the injectors. fuel is delivered to injector at normal "70'ish" psi then the injector greatly increases the pressure directly into the cylinder. The muscle to pressurize the fuel comes from High pressure engine oil. There are two oil pumps in a PSD, low pressure, same as all other cars (also pumps oil to the HPOP reservoir) The High Pressure Oil Pump (HPOP) pressurizes oil to around 3000 psi, the wiring on the injector opens a valve allowing oil inot the injector pushing fuel into the cylinder, all of the computer stuff just tells the injectors when to do this....basicly.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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did I get it backwards, I.E. were you asking about the other older engines?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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so they have the same idea just different set ups more or less
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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no i'm working on a newer john deere skid-loader 3 cyl diesel right now
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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Yeah same idea, on the skidder it is a piston fuel pump that has to be timed right? then you have the high pressure lines to the engine, well the pump acts like our injectors and the timing is mechanical on the Skidder, whereas it is electrical controlled by the "computers" all the principles are the same. The performance chips just change the amount of time that the "computer" tells the injector to remain open thereby chaning the amount of fuel injected, and the timing of said injection
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Yeah to the piston fuel pump... can u tune up our trucks? cause we had to measure the valve lift and i had to snug up the rockers so there was no play in them... AG applications require a tune up ever 2000 running hours, just wondering if we need to worry about this kinda stuff. Thanks for the insight bk =]
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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That would be a great question for Cuda or TJ or Rubber Duck to field, I will be watching for that answer, to tell you the truth I know more about the old stuff than the PSD... grew up on a farm
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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Awsome thanks again bryan =D we'll see what they say!!
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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yea we did the valve adjustments or the 18wheeler engines, but i dont know about our psd valve adjustment
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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On the PSD there is no valve adjustment required, just torque the rocker arms to spec.
 
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