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When you do finally mature...
You will see that it really doesn't make all that much difference what we use here. Promoters have whined about our archaic system for DECADES. Try to pinpoint exactly where we will be so much better off by dropping our system of measurment. You can't do it.
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Originally Posted by MuddyAxles
You will see that it really doesn't make all that much difference what we use here. Promoters have whined about our archaic system for DECADES. Try to pinpoint exactly where we will be so much better off by dropping our system of measurment. You can't do it.
One especially famous one, a Mars probe that aero-braked. Incorrectly. Because of something entered in US units, that should have been metric (or vice-versa).
It hasn't been heard from since.
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Originally Posted by krewat
Are you aware of how many engineering mistakes are made by converting back and forth, especially in ths "global market" ???
One especially famous one, a Mars probe that aero-braked. Incorrectly. Because of something entered in US units, that should have been metric (or vice-versa).
It hasn't been heard from since.
One especially famous one, a Mars probe that aero-braked. Incorrectly. Because of something entered in US units, that should have been metric (or vice-versa).
It hasn't been heard from since.
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Who you talkin' at, Willis?
Originally Posted by Beerstalker
You must not realize that almost all manufacturing companies in the US have already switched over to the metric system. The only places that haven't are pretty much small companies that only do business in the US, the government/DOT, and our school system. If we started teaching young children metric first they would learn to think in metric sizes. When I look at something and try to figure out how big it is, I think in inches and pounds. We need to start thinking in meters and kilograms. Teaching our kids the metric system first will do that. It seems to me that it is pretty much only the people in their 30s and up that hesitate to switch over, just so happens those are the same people making the decisions right now.
Did you miss the part where I told you about some cities struggling to keep graduation rates above 50%??? There's a problem afoot much greater than metric vs. SAE.
Oh, BTW, we were producing some metric parts in the seventies, so save your breath tellin' me about it now, please.
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Originally Posted by MuddyAxles
[font=Comic Sans MS][color=Red]Like I said before, what we NEED to teach children first is unaided arithmetic, actual reading, social skills, manners, and a multitude of things that have been lost.....long before we confuse them with your beloved metric system.
And they already know the metric system.
They are 12 and 10.
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Originally Posted by hotroddsl
funny how all countries still use 1/4", 3/8", & 1/2" drive on their metric sockets!!!
I also see many things dimensioned 25.4mm.
Just becuase you change units doesnt mean you need to reinvent your whole economy. Those drives will never change on tools because it makes no sence to.
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Originally Posted by MuddyAxles
Like I said before, what we NEED to teach children first is unaided arithmetic, actual reading, social skills, manners, and a multitude of things that have been lost.....long before we confuse them with your beloved metric system.
12"=1 Foot
5280 Feet = 1 Mile
quarts to pints to gallons
ect. ect. ect.
They might have more time to teach your kids the basic math and reading skill.
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I work at O.A.C (Ontario Assembly Complex) here in Canada. We are located in the town of Oakville, next town south west of Mississaga. It's been about 4 years since we last produced the F150. The SD was last built about 1997. We are now buiding the Ford Edge and the Lincoln MKX (cross over). Soon we will be launching the new Ford Flex.
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I was up in Alberta ealier this year and was surprised to find that they are not totaly on the Metric system. Alot of thier goods come from the U.S.A which means for example that a camper shell made in Canada would be built to for a 8' bed, not the Metric equivilant. The building industry still uses 2X4 lumber and 4X8 sheets of plywood, but concrete is sold by the cubic meter, not a cubic yard. Quite confusing for a Yank, but it seems to work for alright them
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Originally Posted by four4x4fords
I was up in Alberta ealier this year and was surprised to find that they are not totaly on the Metric system. Alot of thier goods come from the U.S.A which means for example that a camper shell made in Canada would be built to for a 8' bed, not the Metric equivilant. The building industry still uses 2X4 lumber and 4X8 sheets of plywood, but concrete is sold by the cubic meter, not a cubic yard. Quite confusing for a Yank, but it seems to work for alright them
You know the U.S. use some metric in thier system as well. How many people on here call thier 6.0L as 365 CID? You use the unit of Watts for energy as well which is metric.
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Originally Posted by Beerstalker
EXACTLY!!! Don't get me started on how big of a pain in the butt ton (2000lbs) and tonne (1000kg) is! Temperature can be a real pain in the butt too, cause most people just say xxdegrees, they don't tell you if they're useing centigrade or farenheit.
Then we could get into measurements like miners inches <g>
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Damn MTMike you even know more about it. I was just trying to keep the confusing stuff simple
And yeah lets start talking about lumber cuase that really makes sense. Tell me why a 2x4 actually measures some crazy crap like 1.58x3.75. I know carpenters are used to it but look at someone the first time they find out and see how much sense it makes.
And yeah lets start talking about lumber cuase that really makes sense. Tell me why a 2x4 actually measures some crazy crap like 1.58x3.75. I know carpenters are used to it but look at someone the first time they find out and see how much sense it makes.
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Originally Posted by Beerstalker
Damn MTMike you even know more about it. I was just trying to keep the confusing stuff simple
And yeah lets start talking about lumber cuase that really makes sense. Tell me why a 2x4 actually measures some crazy crap like 1.58x3.75. I know carpenters are used to it but look at someone the first time they find out and see how much sense it makes.
And yeah lets start talking about lumber cuase that really makes sense. Tell me why a 2x4 actually measures some crazy crap like 1.58x3.75. I know carpenters are used to it but look at someone the first time they find out and see how much sense it makes.
Lumber is rough cut as a 2 x 4 - then it is planed and dried and it "shrinks" to a 1 1/2 x 3 1/2. Once over a 2 x 8 (2 x 6?) as I recall, a 2 x 10 is actually 1 1/2 x 9 1/8 - could be wrong there as I am a computer guy and not a carpenter :-)
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