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Mar 27, 2007 | 10:44 PM

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I have a hard time believing the flame thrower thing too but there are already alot of videos out showing it so.... i dunno. I must agree w/ MuscleCar_Fan but not to the dramatic extent. The Navistar 7.3 is a FINE diesel motor, the 6.0 is a FINE motor too (after the '03-'4.5 episode) but the benefits of the I6 diesel FAR outweight the benefits of the V8 diesel, just common mathematics and physics for the most part. The 5.9 I6 CTD now that is ONE DAMN GOOD MOTOR.

Mar 27, 2007 | 11:38 PM

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About **** time Ford came out with their own diesel! Just as long as it's not a modular diesel...

Imagining future marketing:
"Our competition has to buy their diesel engines. We build our own. -insert catchy slogan here-"

Mar 28, 2007 | 05:19 AM

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http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/27/f...ngine-quickly/

... the automotive media NEVER seems to bother to get the real story. Just try to generate false hype.
actually make that ALL media

They aren't "rushing" for the SD. The diesel engine has always been the go ahead for the 09 F150. And it was always most likely going to be an option on the SD.

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Maybe Ford will give up the V8 thing, you cannot get a reliable V8 diesel to make that much power for 300,000 miles. It will beat itself to death.

But 6 cyl engines are all low reving, low powered dogs

Mar 28, 2007 | 10:26 AM

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Oh please, wise one, enlighten me.

the bold moves segment has really made it's way to the competition. Look at the Fusion. people choosing it over the camry, the edge is hot, the Tauras will sell like it did, I already seen more than 15 Tauras X station wagons here in L.A. I think they are doing better then GM rite now. To call the new silverwierdoe a truck is a dud, a fluke. I think ford is in the right direction you'll see. Come on the fusion looks way better than the impala. They call that thing impala. More like wimpala. But, IMHO. I aint wise and I won't enlighten you as you are already enlighted. Just shocking to see you comment on something like that. That bold move is going to smack you upside the face. CEO at FORD is doing WONDERS.

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Mar 28, 2007 | 10:28 AM

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I like that slogan......good one Rust.

Mar 28, 2007 | 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by V10_Cougar

cgl. Ford has a contract with IH/Navistar until 2012.

Thanks! I knew it was somewhere around that time frame..

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Originally Posted by BigF350

...They aren't "rushing" for the SD. The diesel engine has always been the go ahead for the 09 F150. And it was always most likely going to be an option on the SD.

This is true, they planned on having it as an option, giving us two choices of diesels for the SD.

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But 6 cyl engines are all low reving, low powered dogs

They are naturally balanced as well. As for the reving and power issues, it's all relative to the design of the motor. I wouldn't consider an 5.9 CTD low powered by any means, just limited by the factory for EPA and other reasons. All of which can be overcome.

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Mar 28, 2007 | 11:49 AM

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the bold moves segment has really made it's way to the competition. Look at the Fusion. people choosing it over the camry, the edge is hot, the Tauras will sell like it did,.

The only vehicle the came out after the Bold move slogan was introduced was the Edge and yes it is selling well because it's a "niche" vehicle and it's the first one in the market place. I'm positive the Fusion and 500 ( aka Taurus ) were out before.

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I already seen more than 15 Tauras X station wagons here in L.A.

You are starting to sound like your buddy 93Ranger, so I guess if you see over 15 of the same cars on the road they MUST be an instant success. And seeing 15 of them on the road doesn't say alot seeing what's the population of L.A.?

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Originally Posted by V10_Cougar

I think they are doing better then GM rite now. To call the new silverwierdoe a truck is a dud, a fluke. I think ford is in the right direction you'll see. Come on the fusion looks way better than the impala. They call that thing impala. More like wimpala. But, IMHO.

I swear if you were to make a few more spelling mistakes and take some punctuation out this would be a post straight out of someone else's reprotoire (sp?) It's all opinion, I'm sure if they were to paste a blue oval on a "big wheel" ( you should know what these are, if not ask your son ) some of the die-hards would drool all over it.

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Originally Posted by V10_Cougar

I aint wise and I won't enlighten you as you are already enlighted.

Once again the irony in this statement........your right, I'm enlightened!

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Originally Posted by V10_Cougar

Just shocking to see you comment on something like that.

Didn't mean to shock you there offroadbandit!

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Originally Posted by V10_Cougar

That bold move is going to smack you upside the face.

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CEO at FORD is doing WONDERS.

He should, seeing he is using Toyota as a blue print for the restructuring.

Now back to the topic,

So what's going to happen the trucks already sold with the 6.4? What about warranty issues ( if anymore ) will Navistar be held liable?

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Mar 28, 2007 | 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by V10_Cougar

To call the new silverwierdoe a truck is a dud, a fluke.

The "fluke" (58,696) outsold the F150 (55,251) in February, so someone must like them.

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Mar 28, 2007 | 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cgl

Sorry, I didn't genuinely mean what I sad - my sarcasm didn't seem to permiate across the world wide web that well...

Mar 29, 2007 | 06:05 PM

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The "fluke" (58,696) outsold the F150 (55,251) in February, so someone must like them.

sad thaqt the new truck only sold 3445 more than a 4 year old desgin, Fords proborly just dumping Navistar. they got the truck world on lockdown.

Mar 29, 2007 | 06:32 PM

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sad thaqt the new truck only sold 3445 more than a 4 year old desgin, Fords proborly just dumping Navistar. they got the truck world on lockdown.

This is what I mean....it's puke......4 yr old style and just sold 3445 more than F150. That sure does show that the stylin of the F150 beats the Silverwierdoe.

Mar 30, 2007 | 12:27 AM

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You two should get a room.......bring some toy Fords. (just throw them away when you're done "playing" with 'em)

Just in case your math is off, that's 1 month!!! That's over 40,000(FORTY THOUSAND)for the year.................add in GMC and it's well over a 100,000 advantage for GM.

I don't think a 2X4 would get either of your attention.

Mar 30, 2007 | 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by V10_Cougar

This is what I mean....it's puke......4 yr old style and just sold 3445 more than F150. That sure does show that the stylin of the F150 beats the Silverwierdoe.

Yup, if Chevy selling more trucks than Ford doesn't prove that more people like ford than Chevy...I don't know what will.

Excuse me, I'm going to go hit myself in the head with a hammer repeatedly now.

Tim

Mar 30, 2007 | 08:42 AM

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Put the hammer down Tim, it's not worth it.

You should know with these two the only way the are going to accept that GM sold more trucks is if they see like 200 of them on the road. As long as they see more of them in their parts of the world ( I know I'm stretching it a bit here ) it must be gospel!

Come on, actual facts? Lies!!!

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