Hypothetical engine block poll
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Hypothetical engine block poll
IF...
If a new aftermarket block was to be undertaken and you could only get one choice...what would it be?
1. A tall deck windsor (10.2 DH 351W) - perhaps the least costly option
2. A direct (but updated version of the 400 improved oiling, 4B mains,etc) - Big block hell housing pattern and all
3. a Cleveland style block (10.2 DH) with 351C bearing sizes and a small block bell housing pattern - improved oiling and 4b mains
4. A new and improved 9.2 deck C. (I know you can get a W in 9.2, but think about the aux items that would not mate up).
My vote is #3
why? I am guessing there are about 10 times the number of 400's around vs. 351C. Why would you not want another 50+ cubes all else being equal? The stroker potential is huge for the 10.2 block and it would be easy for some the bigger intake companies to simply transfer 351C manifold casting to the new DH. In most cases I can't image the additional 1 inch DH would pose a problem in engine bay fit. I look forward to your opinions...and thanks for playing.
If a new aftermarket block was to be undertaken and you could only get one choice...what would it be?
1. A tall deck windsor (10.2 DH 351W) - perhaps the least costly option
2. A direct (but updated version of the 400 improved oiling, 4B mains,etc) - Big block hell housing pattern and all
3. a Cleveland style block (10.2 DH) with 351C bearing sizes and a small block bell housing pattern - improved oiling and 4b mains
4. A new and improved 9.2 deck C. (I know you can get a W in 9.2, but think about the aux items that would not mate up).
My vote is #3
why? I am guessing there are about 10 times the number of 400's around vs. 351C. Why would you not want another 50+ cubes all else being equal? The stroker potential is huge for the 10.2 block and it would be easy for some the bigger intake companies to simply transfer 351C manifold casting to the new DH. In most cases I can't image the additional 1 inch DH would pose a problem in engine bay fit. I look forward to your opinions...and thanks for playing.
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My preference is a 400 block 10.297" deck height, with a small block bell housing pattern (AKA FMX block), or a dual bell housing pattern. This has the advantage of using the 351W stroker cranks that are available. Intake Manifolds have alway been a problem with the tall deck height 400, but maybe Edelbrock and Weiand will smell the coffee before CHI or offshore companies like Procomp drink it.
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Originally Posted by danlee
My preference is a 400 block 10.297" deck height, with a small block bell housing pattern (AKA FMX block), or a dual bell housing pattern. This has the advantage of using the 351W stroker cranks that are available. Intake Manifolds have alway been a problem with the tall deck height 400, but maybe Edelbrock and Weiand will smell the coffee before CHI or offshore companies like Procomp drink it.
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Originally Posted by TMI
You did hear that CHI has a 400 intake for the 3V heads.
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Originally Posted by havi
I, too, was gonna say multi bell pattern...sure would be nice to drop an AOD behind a new 400.
Lentech has an adapter and a beefed up AOD tranny. The price tag for that keeps my C6 in place.
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Diddo on a better 400 block, i'd have it so you can overbore more that what the stockers can, improve the oiling system a bit, dual bellhousing bolt pattern. If i had the cash i'd go this route and build the biggest displacement stroker i could out of it.
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Originally Posted by mustange70
If i had the cash i'd go this route and build the biggest displacement stroker i could out of it.
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Someone is ready to build 351C blocks in Iron or Aluminum. They also mentioned 9.5" deck height blocks in the future. I have voiced my opinion in the past about 10.3" deck height, but apparently it fell on deaf ears.
Here is a link!
http://www.network54.com/Forum/11941...3414/Attention.
Here is a link!
http://www.network54.com/Forum/11941...3414/Attention.
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Originally Posted by danlee
Someone is ready to build 351C blocks in Iron or Aluminum. They also mentioned 9.5" deck height blocks in the future. I have voiced my opinion in the past about 10.3" deck height, but apparently it fell on deaf ears.
Here is a link!
http://www.network54.com/Forum/11941...3414/Attention.
Here is a link!
http://www.network54.com/Forum/11941...3414/Attention.
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Thanks for your responses. I agree that the 9.2 Cleveland block would be redundant with the option of the 9.2W. How much are we willing to pay for a good 10.3? What do you think is a conservative estimate on annual sales of such an animial? I do some business with some casting operations...I will find out what the cost/break even would be.
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as far as cost, well i can say i wouldn't pay to much more than what the dart/world 9.2/9.5 blocks go for, and honestly i don't know what those cost offhand, but if the profit margin is there i would have it the same approximate price as the 9.2/9.5 blocks with similar features. As far as how many would sell, well its all about the exposure it gets and the price, also having information for things like intakes, heads, etc that can be used with the block (mainly intakes as there aren't a lot of intakes avaible for a 10.3 block without the use of spacers) that would accompany the block when purchased.
my $.02, but then again i don't make or sell engine parts
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my $.02, but then again i don't make or sell engine parts
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