Full Time 4x4
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It sounds like someone put a part time kit in the NP203(full time case), and in order to used the 2wd option that the kit allows you have to put manul hubs.
Here's some pics of a 203:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...=88590&width=0
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...=88592&width=0
The 205 doesn't have that 10" long alluminum tail housing like the 203 has, or the 4" long range box in front of the case it's self.
Here's some pics of a 203:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...=88590&width=0
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...=88592&width=0
The 205 doesn't have that 10" long alluminum tail housing like the 203 has, or the 4" long range box in front of the case it's self.
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Well Im pretty sure I got a NP203 w/ the part time kit. I have been doing some research it seems like a pretty solid modification. I have read that it is wise to lock in the hubs and drive every so often to lube everything. Now according to what I have been reading this is my actual shift pattern now, with the part time kit:
4 LOW
2 LOW
N
2HI
4HI
The shift lever reads:
4LO-LOCKED
4LO
N
4HI
4HI-LOCKED
I'd like to hear from some of you guys that are running the NP203 w/ the part time kit. What fluid, how often do you change it, any problems to look for, do you ever use the 2LOW and if so what for??? Thanks this board is very helpful!!
PS...theres 2 pics of Ol' Blue in my gallery that I took yesterday as I dropped her off at the muffler shop
4 LOW
2 LOW
N
2HI
4HI
The shift lever reads:
4LO-LOCKED
4LO
N
4HI
4HI-LOCKED
I'd like to hear from some of you guys that are running the NP203 w/ the part time kit. What fluid, how often do you change it, any problems to look for, do you ever use the 2LOW and if so what for??? Thanks this board is very helpful!!
PS...theres 2 pics of Ol' Blue in my gallery that I took yesterday as I dropped her off at the muffler shop
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It's part time. The previous owner converted it.
Your right that is your shift pattern now.
Since you don't know what kind or how old the fluid is, I'd suggest draining it. Unbolting the flat circular piece of alluminum(not taking the top bolt off, just loosening it, and drain the fluid like that. You would then need to get some kind of a pump to get the remaining quart or so that doesn't drain out, and then wipe the bottom to see how dirty it is in there, and if there are any metal shavings.
You can then bolt it back together, and put NON DETERGENT SAE 30W motor oil into the fill plug, using what ever you find in the best method(flexy funnel). It's been a while since I filled it up, but I want to say 6 quarts.
I've used 2 Low every now and then. Just to see how easy I can walk through mud(showing off) in 2wd(just people don't know I have a 2 low).
I've hooked up to a chevy with slicks while he was in 4Lo, and I told him I'll only pull in 2wd, then I popped it into 2 lo and pulled him.
I've never used it other than just playing around.
But you could put it in 2 lo to pull a heavy load a short distance.
By the way, the truck looks really good(other than the rust hole, but from the discription I thought it would of been alittle worst).
What you getting done to her at the muffler shop?
Your right that is your shift pattern now.
Since you don't know what kind or how old the fluid is, I'd suggest draining it. Unbolting the flat circular piece of alluminum(not taking the top bolt off, just loosening it, and drain the fluid like that. You would then need to get some kind of a pump to get the remaining quart or so that doesn't drain out, and then wipe the bottom to see how dirty it is in there, and if there are any metal shavings.
You can then bolt it back together, and put NON DETERGENT SAE 30W motor oil into the fill plug, using what ever you find in the best method(flexy funnel). It's been a while since I filled it up, but I want to say 6 quarts.
I've used 2 Low every now and then. Just to see how easy I can walk through mud(showing off) in 2wd(just people don't know I have a 2 low).
I've hooked up to a chevy with slicks while he was in 4Lo, and I told him I'll only pull in 2wd, then I popped it into 2 lo and pulled him.
I've never used it other than just playing around.
But you could put it in 2 lo to pull a heavy load a short distance.
By the way, the truck looks really good(other than the rust hole, but from the discription I thought it would of been alittle worst).
What you getting done to her at the muffler shop?
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Its got little tiny pipes and the passenger side is broken off right as it bends to exit out so Im getting some good free flowing mufflers with 3" pipes. Any body got any suggestions as to mufflers/pipes? I dropped it off yesterday but they didnt even look at it so it'll be Monday before they get to it....
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Depends on how loud you want it, and how much your willing to spend.
I don't care for flowmasters on these trucks to much....(that would be the expensive end).
IF you want it loud, go with glass packs, they're cheap, and depending on how loud or quiet you want it, you could get longer or shorter ones. They are pretty good flowing mufflers believe it or not. lol
IF you want it quiet, most muffler shops have the turbo style mufflers. They're pretty cheap, but not the best flowing, and way to quiet for me.
I don't care for flowmasters on these trucks to much....(that would be the expensive end).
IF you want it loud, go with glass packs, they're cheap, and depending on how loud or quiet you want it, you could get longer or shorter ones. They are pretty good flowing mufflers believe it or not. lol
IF you want it quiet, most muffler shops have the turbo style mufflers. They're pretty cheap, but not the best flowing, and way to quiet for me.
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So mine would be a 203 converted or a 205?
Pipes-wise, I'm running a single 2 1/2 to a flowmaster muffler (found one used, with install it was $50). to a 3 inch short pipe after. I liked the noise it had with no muffler, but I didn't feel like getting a noise pollution ticket
. Sounds pretty good though.
Pipes-wise, I'm running a single 2 1/2 to a flowmaster muffler (found one used, with install it was $50). to a 3 inch short pipe after. I liked the noise it had with no muffler, but I didn't feel like getting a noise pollution ticket
. Sounds pretty good though.
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Originally Posted by ihateminimumwage
So mine would be a 203 converted or a 205?
Pipes-wise, I'm running a single 2 1/2 to a flowmaster muffler (found one used, with install it was $50). to a 3 inch short pipe after. I liked the noise it had with no muffler, but I didn't feel like getting a noise pollution ticket. Sounds pretty good though.
Pipes-wise, I'm running a single 2 1/2 to a flowmaster muffler (found one used, with install it was $50). to a 3 inch short pipe after. I liked the noise it had with no muffler, but I didn't feel like getting a noise pollution ticket
. Sounds pretty good though.From the pics you have, it looks just like a 205 to me.
You have one tiny aluminum tail housing which means a 205, and the 203 has two pieces of aluminum bolted to each other totaling 6"s for a tail housing.
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Well heres an update if anyone cares I got my tune up done it runs a little smoother so I am glad I did it, got my power steering gear box replaced, that part was $$$$$$!!! Got all new exhaust magna-flow all new from the manifolds back, it has a really nice DEEP rumble to it I like it alot. I changed the tranny fluid and filter, it was NASTY, same with transfer case. So it should be ready to go right? Well almost. I broke down and had the shop order me a set of 33 12.50 15" Goodyear MTR's. Well he called me back an hour later and said those are back ordered, but he will sell me some 35!!! 12.50 15 Goodyear MTR's for the same price!! Thats gonna look sweet those tires look really good they have heavy lugs on the side also. Supposed to have the tires mounted so I can bring her back home tomorrow night. Im pretty excited if you cant tell so I just wanted to tell someone about my truck!!!!!!
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Just curious, what gear ratio do you have in your truck?
IF you don't know, you can check the axle tag on the rear diff cover and it should have some #s like this:
3L50 for a 3.50 gear ratio w/ limited slip
or
3.08 for 3.08 gears and no limited slip
Also, what tune up's were done to the engine?
Sounds like you've got a running start on your truck. Good Job!
Make sure you get picks of those 35s. You might want to level out the front or lift it or cut the fenders so you won't have any rubbing.
Also what wheels will you be putting those new tires on?
IF you don't know, you can check the axle tag on the rear diff cover and it should have some #s like this:
3L50 for a 3.50 gear ratio w/ limited slip
or
3.08 for 3.08 gears and no limited slip
Also, what tune up's were done to the engine?
Sounds like you've got a running start on your truck. Good Job!
Make sure you get picks of those 35s. You might want to level out the front or lift it or cut the fenders so you won't have any rubbing.
Also what wheels will you be putting those new tires on?
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Im not sure of the gear ratios, I walked under the truck tonight while it was up on the lift at the shop and I didnt see an axle tag on either axle. I probably should have taken a picture so you guys could maybe id my axles for me?? Another worry I have now is when I was under there I noticed the black plastic fuel tank. Well the metal brackets underneath the fuel tank that hold it up are rusted pretty bad. Could I lose the whole tank while driving down the road??? Any one else ever had this problem? I definitely dont want to do any welding around that fuel tank I'd have to leave that to a professional lol...
Oh yea for the tune up I just put a new distributor cap, rotor, plugs, wires, pcv valve, fuel filter, replaced alternator belt, and changed the oil. I guess thats a tune up???
Oh yea for the tune up I just put a new distributor cap, rotor, plugs, wires, pcv valve, fuel filter, replaced alternator belt, and changed the oil. I guess thats a tune up???
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IF it's stock, you should have a D44 up front and a 9" in the rear.
You more than likely have 3.50 gears front and rear.
You can drop the tank and put new straps. You can get them off of www.broncograveyard.com
Just an idea, you could try running some sea foam through your engine to decarbonize it, and clean a few jets on the carb, ect...
Are you thinking of lifting it a little for those 35s?
IF so while you would be changing straps for the fuel tank, you could do the rear shackle flip real easy while the tanks out the way.
You more than likely have 3.50 gears front and rear.
You can drop the tank and put new straps. You can get them off of www.broncograveyard.com
Just an idea, you could try running some sea foam through your engine to decarbonize it, and clean a few jets on the carb, ect...
Are you thinking of lifting it a little for those 35s?
IF so while you would be changing straps for the fuel tank, you could do the rear shackle flip real easy while the tanks out the way.
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Its already lifted but Im not sure exactly how much, at least 4" maybe 6" would be my guess it sits pretty high, theres a couple pics in my gallery but keep in mind in those pics it is sitting right behind a parking lot curb. But those are 31's on it in the pics the guy at the shop said there should be plenty of room. Am I asking for trouble putting the 35's on a 9" rearend and a D44 front? You think it will be pretty sluggish w/ the 3.50's??
Sea Foam...wow I have never heard of such a thing...I'll google it after I post this post.
Rear Shackle flip.....explain more please.................
Sea Foam...wow I have never heard of such a thing...I'll google it after I post this post.
Rear Shackle flip.....explain more please.................
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35s on your axles would be fine. I have 36s, and have the same axles, but I just regeared.
The truck will be sluggish on take offs, but it will still turn them.
Rear shacke flip is taking the shackle at the rear of the leaf spring and flipping it and putting new grade 8 bolts and you've got 3"s of lift.
Sea Foam is like a fuel/carb cleaner.
You pour 1/3-1/2 a can in the into the carb while truck is running with someone inside giving some gas making sure the truck doesn't die out. Then turn off the truck and let it sit for a hour or so. Start it up, and watch it smoke out the carbon.
I've done this to both my trucks, and a few of my buddy's. They all idled smoother and lower, got a mpg or two(depending on how bad engine was), and then pour the rest into the fuel tank and it cleans the jets, ect in the carb.
Judging by the space in the wheel well, it has a 3-4" lift.
The truck will be sluggish on take offs, but it will still turn them.
Rear shacke flip is taking the shackle at the rear of the leaf spring and flipping it and putting new grade 8 bolts and you've got 3"s of lift.
Sea Foam is like a fuel/carb cleaner.
You pour 1/3-1/2 a can in the into the carb while truck is running with someone inside giving some gas making sure the truck doesn't die out. Then turn off the truck and let it sit for a hour or so. Start it up, and watch it smoke out the carbon.
I've done this to both my trucks, and a few of my buddy's. They all idled smoother and lower, got a mpg or two(depending on how bad engine was), and then pour the rest into the fuel tank and it cleans the jets, ect in the carb.
Judging by the space in the wheel well, it has a 3-4" lift.