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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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The BEST heater Core....

.... where can you get it? There seems to be a growing number of us FTE-ers right now who are getting ready to replace our heater core.

IS there a best replacement core available? Where? If not, where have you guys found your best price? I've got a little time before I have to put one in, but not much, and I want to go ahead and start things moving in that direction (including 203° thermostat, system flush, new "shut tight" heater valve, and extra coolant filtration).
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Pete, whats wrong with current heater core? I've got 7 years and 230K+ on mine and no runs, drips, coolant smell, or errors, and the heat works in the winter... anything in particular I should be looking for.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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I would think if you can find a good price on the stock core, that would work fine. One thing I've never had a problem with is not having enough heat in the cab during the cold months.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Brandon:

Since running the AC a little bit this weekend, I am detecting a coolant odor in the cab. It's not yet bad enough to fog the windshield or drip, but I can smell it clearly, even though it is still very faint. I know what it means, and am making plans to tackle it and the other tasks mentioned above soon.

When looking online this afternoon, I noticed heater cores being labeled or branded as OEM, "aftermarket", and "OE replacement by Four Seasons". The Four Seasons unit that has the aluminum core seems to be running about $10 higher than their "copper brass" unit ($65 and $55 respectively). The "aftermarket" units seem to be running in the $37-$47 price range, while the OEM units are running $45-$85.

I don't know if the aluminum core is a better unit or not, but I've seen some casual references in my search indicating that the Ford units are aluminum cores as well. I know that the aluminum core will exhibit a much higher heat transfer rate than the "copper brass" unit by a factor of 2-3x.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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good luck!! My heater core was replaced 3 times by the dealer from around 80000 to 90000 miles, they always had an excuse for the failure, but apparently they finally got a good one because I havent had any problems for about 50000 miles now.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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When looking online this afternoon, I noticed heater cores being labeled or branded as OEM, "aftermarket", and "OE replacement by Four Seasons". The Four Seasons unit that has the aluminum core seems to be running about $10 higher than their "copper brass" unit ($65 and $55 respectively). The "aftermarket" units seem to be running in the $37-$47 price range, while the OEM units are running $45-$85.
I had bought an aftermarket unit from CarQuest. I had both the aluminum one and the brass one that is listed for my truck in my hand. I can tell you that the brass one was not the right one. The piping was not bent the same as the core I removed from the truck. There was no way it was gonna fit in my truck and the catalog listed it fitting 1999 to 2004.

I don't know if the aluminum core is a better unit or not, but I've seen some casual references in my search indicating that the Ford units are aluminum cores as well. I know that the aluminum core will exhibit a much higher heat transfer rate than the "copper brass" unit by a factor of 2-3x.
The heater core I removed from my 99 was all aluminum. I've used both Ford and aftermarket ones in the past and can honestly say it is a crap shoot if you get a good one or a bad one. Good luck!
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Just because you smell coolant in the cab dont jump to the heater core. the heat and AC normal draws air from the outside and can suck an under hood smell into the cab.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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I've wondered about that a bit, Alan. Wherever it's coming from, it still hasn't got to the point of dripping, yet. I thought about opening up the AC ductwork and inspecting it before committing to a core purchase. For sure, I'm going to do some more intense poking around under the hood and in the dash this Friday afternoon.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Look under the water pump pulley, mine had a small drip from the weep hole and I was thinking heater core from the smell with heat on till I crawled under and saw the spatter marks.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Look under the water pump pulley, mine had a small drip from the weep hole and I was thinking heater core from the smell with heat on till I crawled under and saw the spatter marks.
Now that I think about it when I rplaced my waterpump about a year ago, I was experiencing the same sweet smell. Sure enough in about another week I would have a small silver dollar size puddle in the driveway in the a.m. of coolant. make sure your weep hole has not been plugged by grime and goop and look at the front suspension pieces for the tell tale sign of moisture. if collant drips are found then your WP bearings are on their way out. Good time for that 203* and 1 piece tstat housing mod also.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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Alan... did you end up changing out your WP?

Both Alan and Brandon... Is the OEM water pump the best repalcement option, or is there some other aftermarket unit that does a better job. I know that there are better water pumps out there, but from what I've read, it almost seems like they're not necessary or justified unless your racing, which I am not.

I also looked into the waterless coolant replacement option, but that's something like $200-$250 just for the coolant ($33 per gallon, twice the Rotella ELC price). The Rotella ELC is a whole lot more economical and probably more appropriate for my kind of driving.

Your're right, Brandon, if I have to go through the full system drain for a pump, or heater core, I'm ready to go ahead and flush the system, use the Rotella ELC, install the 203° stat/housing, and instlal the "shut-tight" heater valve at the same time.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Pete, I got 200K out of my original pump, and so I just went back with the stock one from the parts house. At that time I had not learned about the 203* so I did not upgrade, nor did I install the inline heater hose valve. Wish I had, but hind sight is 20/20
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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I used an Airtex pump, which I like better because the elbow at the bottom is a one piece molded part. Not a bolt on piece like the stock pump. My stock one was leaking at that point. I'm pretty sure that's the one that Alan used too.

I got mine off eBay, but did notice the other day that O'Reilly's carries Airtex pumps. I think NAPA may sell them as well. If I had known that, I would have gotten mine locally.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Thats the one I went with 149.00 at the Big O with a lifetime warranty
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Wow... I hadn't actually looked at the pump. That's a big'n. And is that the one-piece billet housing for the 203° stat I see there?
 
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