Swapping Cabs and Frames...Title which?

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Apr 2, 2007 | 04:30 AM

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clunker86

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thank you, thats what i like to here WKETT.
i love my ford and i love her even more everyday

Apr 2, 2007 | 09:43 AM

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Redcat Diesel

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Originally Posted by ralf

I am swaping a 95 cab for my 85 cab. I figure it is up to me as to whether it is a 1985 or a 1995. Mine is going to be a 85 no matter what a pencil necked geek says at the DMV. I'M a WV lawyer and I will fight them on this but, I'm sure no one gives a hoot how I title it. It is like the argument as to how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

I'm sure the W.V. DMV has a way to handle your cab swap because as locknkey stated if you get caught it is still fraud and fraud ( as I'm sure you know ) is a felony.Yes, I agree, no one will care how you title it unless you get involved in a serious accident.With all due respect this is where law enforcement and the d.a. get involved.In court a prosecuting attorney will argue that you, as an attorney, should know better.In a best case scenario you could go for a plea bargain but you would likely have your law license suspended or be disbarred.In a worst case scenario your title could change from counselor to ..........convict # ????

Apr 2, 2007 | 11:56 AM

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wizzard351

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years ago i had a 77 mustang titled as a 74 at the same time i had a 74 f250 hi-boy titled as a 79 even had a lein on both of them and thought "yup they want'a repo ill just hand them an envalope with titles and vin" any way after the loan i told the banker(good freind) he should realy look what they was useing for colateral and told him what i did,he said thanks for payin it off early. i drove both till they went to the crusher

Apr 2, 2007 | 01:54 PM

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Franklin2

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Originally Posted by wkett

Heres my take on the issue:

If Cab and Frame are different, always title the Cab it has the vin number.
Putting a newer Cab on your truck could make passing smog test harder.
Different Cab and Frame should legally have a salvage title.
If you put a 4 wheel Frame under your 2 wheel drive might cause insurance problems.
If you change engines and your new engine is newer with all smog stuff your ok.
Changing diesel to gas could give you problems with testing.
I've never seen anyone check the frame for numbers,
but a F100 2wd on the title that now is a F250 4wd, insurance problems?

All these regulations suck because all we are trying to do is keep our Ford we love on the road. Our trucks are safer than most because we do our own work and have pride in our rides.

I agree, stick with the vin on the cab. Sometimes when titling replicars, they title it with "what the vehicle most closely represents". Your 85 cab on 95 running gear will more closely represent a 1985. Plus, you do not have to monkey with the vin tag, since it's going to be clearly visible in the windshield.

If you want to get technical, most every piece on your truck has the original vin stamped on it somewhere. Frame, fenders, engine, etc.

All rules are created as a reaction to something happening. You can thank the low life people in our world for all these rules. Autos are valuable, thus are stolen all the time. They are also a handy tool for people to use when they commit crimes.

So being able to correctly indentify a vehicle is very important to get clues to fight crime. Some dramatic examples are the vin numbers found on u-haul type rental trucks used for terrorist type bombings. In most cases they can find the vin on some piece of the wreckage, and be able to trace the vehicle. That is why the bureaucrats are so up-tight about vin numbers.