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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Well, as long recommended for my smoking problem was to check the CDR (Cheaper and Dave S.), I finally got around to getting it out this weekend. When I went to remove it, the bolts were pretty tight on it. I can tell ya, the CDR hasn't been serviced since the day it rolled out of the factory...especially by the gunk I found in the CDR. I went ahead and washed out the CDR with gasoline and all that came out was PURE black. I examined the blackened gasoline and sure enough, black pieces of rubber were floating in its contents. After this discovery I went to town to get a replacement. Sure enough as I had been told, the local parts stores either looked at me funny or were unable to find it (I even had the old CDR in hand). I finally broke down and went to the dealership...the found it in a snap...for $65. I asked about ordering but they said I would have to pay upfront for an order. I told them I'd think about it...I'm now wondering, is that a decent price? Is there any place online to order these? I plan to turbo this truck when summertime rolls around and I don't want to put $65 into a part that I might use for about 3 months...any thoughts?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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call Ed at Y2K ford parts. he is a site sponsor. you will find his info on the top of the page.
and you will still need the CDR valve with the turbo, you just relocate it.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Contact the closest IH dealer if you want it cheaper......


Ford calls this item a "Adapter assembly for Crankcase Ventilation" Part number E3TZ-6A665-A

IH part #1805319C1
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Alright thanks for the replies guys! I will call West River International and see if they can get ahold of one. Before I do that...TJC, there is a good CDR valve on the Banks turbo system sitting in my garage, would that one fit? I don't know if it has the same mounting bracket though...I also noticed that after soaking the old CDR in gas, it is still seeping gas from the little pin-hole on the back of the unit. Is this normal? I don't want to take the new one, clean it in gas and have gas flowing back into the crankcase. The help is VERY appreciated, thanks.

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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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the one on the banks turbo should be the same thing as you have on the truck. mine is.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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this is rite from Y2K ford parts site search feature..

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=tabletext style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #24569d 1px solid">Item Number</TD><TD class=tabletext style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #24569d 1px solid" align=right>MSRP</TD><TD class=tabletext style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #24569d 1px solid" align=right>Core Price</TD><TD class=tabletext style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #24569d 1px solid" align=right>Price</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tabletext vAlign=top>E3TZ6A665A</TD><TD class=tabletext vAlign=top align=right>$53.18</TD><TD class=tabletext vAlign=top align=right>$0.00</TD><TD class=tabletext vAlign=top align=right>$38.29</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tabletext colSpan=4>
ADAPTER ASY CRANKCA
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tabletext style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #24569d 1px solid" align=middle colSpan=4>Add to Cart Contact Us </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Thanks TJC, I only need it for about 3 months before it goes turbo . I tell ya, I JUST checked the website and got those numbers. That $38.29 looks alot better than $65!! I will check tonight and make some measurements to make sure the Banks CDR will work. If not, I'll have that one from Y2KFord on order.

I am still in question about the gasoline technique I used. I mean, I let it soak, swished the gas around inside and poured it out on Saturday. Today is Monday and I am still seeing gasoline leaking out of the pin-hole on the backside of the CDR valve. Thats a little extensive of a drying period in my opinion. Don't want any gas in the crankcase, so what am I doing wrong? Any thoughts?

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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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i washed mine out in my parts washer to clean it up a bit a few years ago when the truck was down with the blown transfer case/ trans swap.
after draining it and blowing it out with air, it still took almost 1 month to stop dripping.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Won't gasoline attack the rubber and damage/destroy it?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
i washed mine out in my parts washer to clean it up a bit a few years ago when the truck was down with the blown transfer case/ trans swap.
after draining it and blowing it out with air, it still took almost 1 month to stop dripping.
What chemicals were in your parts washer that you used to clean it?

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Won't gasoline attack the rubber and damage/destroy it?
Thats what I was wondering but many folks here have recommended it to clean the CDR...Any idea of another cleaner that won't eat the rubber?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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The CDR on the Banks kit is the same. There's only one CDR valve for these things. Its just relocated to the airbox on a Banks turbo install, so you'll need it when you slap the turbo on.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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i used carb cleaner on mine? it did take a while to drain and i think it still has some stuff in it?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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my 40 gallon parts cleaner has 10 gallons of napa cleaner fluid, 10 gallons of kerosene, and 20 gallons of diesel in it.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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Well, carb cleaner is even stronger than gasoline when it comes to attacking rubber.

I think the best bet is a citrus-based grease cutting solution. My Fast Orange hand cleaner does a great job at cutting grease and oil. Maybe I could thin it out (the non-pumice variety, that is) and use that to flush out the CDR. They have spray bottles of the stuff, too. Not as a hand cleaner, but as a grease-cutting cleaner.

I have some engine degreaser in a spray can, too. I'm going to do a couple of experiments with it to see if it attacks rubber. If not, it might be a good, cheap alternative to the citrus stuff. Or maybe it would work well in combination with the citrus stuff. I could mix the two.

If you hear a boom and feel your windows rattle, it's probably just me finding out that citrus and engine degreaser can be substituted for low-yield tactical nuclear weapons. I'll probably have to write a tech manual for it (as soon as I repair the EMP damage to my computer).

I have to do this on my next oil change. I hope the thing's intact (but probably not), but at least a new one isn't that much.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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Thanks for the replies guys. I did discover that the bolt patterns were the same so the CDR off the Banks kit will work. I might try your chemical mix TJC. If not degreaser or something. I know Dave S recommends good ol' gasoline but as said previously, it could harm the rubber seal. I also thought using compressed air to dry out the CDR was a bad idea? Not sure if I remember correctly about that one.

and Matt...let us know how it turns out but don't blow yourself up in the process!
 
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