will this replace the vv on my 85 w/ 302 and AOD? Until now, all i could find to hook up w/ the OD linkage were 4bbl carbs...i'd like to avoid swapping the intake manifold. if I can just get a replacement 2 bbl that isnt gay like the vv i'd be satisfied

what kind of mileage should i get out of this old 302? right now im gettin around 11-12 avg...i had a friend w/ a 91 mustang that got 24 every time....now ik this brick on wheels isnt gonna get very close to that, but shouldn't I be doing better?

I think the last guy that had this truck removed some things thats keeping whatever the hell is on there from working properly. anyways, anything you can tell me would be appreciated. thanks

 

bump the venturi is gay

 

Damn, I got real good mileage with a VV on a 1958 F100 running a 312 and 3spd overdrive. You will not get the same milage a Mustang gets, your vehicle is heavier and pushes a lot more air. I think at one time Holley had a bolt-on replacement for the VV and AOD combo. If not, go to http://www.lokar.com they make linkage kits for just about any application. Their stuff usually hooks to the "powerglide tail" (bottom of the throttle lever) on the Chevrolet style throttle linkage.

 

Why? It's not that hard, you do not even have to pull the distributor. All you have to do is drain the water, and unbolt it.

 

cause I can't find one without buying it new and if i buy it new it's 200 bux or more

if i go that route i got a $300ish carb + $200 stupid intake...+$100 for distributor swap...man this truck isn't in bad shape but I really do not want to spend 600 bux on this heap right now.

i dont have a problem doing the work. I don't want to spend that kind of a money for an intake if I don't have to

 

btw I've heard of this Holley replacement but I don't think they still make it....and also I don't think I want to go this route...if i remember correctly, this was another version of the feedback carb (meaning it's electrical)...what I want to do is eliminate the computer because it is malfunctioning and making the truck run like crap

if I am mistaken about this, let me know

 

You still have a variety of choices but to stay with the 302 VV configuration, the truck will always run like crap because that is the best it can do with that design. When the Variable Venturi carburetor works correctly it still sux.

Alternatives:

Mr. Gasket 2 to 4 V carb adapter will allow you to run any 4V carb < $50

Salvage yard 4V intake or eBay 4V intake + new gasket set
This should cost < $50 to include new paint for intake

You don't need a new 4V carburetor. A used one with no throttle slop and all the fittings in place will work just fine + one rebuild kit + 2 cans of carburetor cleaner. < $100 complete.

You can rebuild your engine for the $600 bux you quoted. Re-manufactured 5.0L short block $ 350 + rebuilt 5.0L heads $ 150. This engine has been in production for 30 + years in one form or another. However in my opinion the 302 was the least desirable truck engine of choice, although there were millions sold that way. The 4.9L in line six was a much better engine for the low end, reasonable fuel mileage, and overall trouble free maintenance. The 5.8L was a much better choice for a V8 configuration because everything else (horsepower, transmission, torque) was beefed up a few notches with little change in fuel consumption, when compared to the miserable 302 truck engine. Please don't misunderstand though, the 302 is a great little V8, but not really a good choice for a heavy 1980's truck that plows through the wind like a billboard at highway speeds.

Your only concern is the AOD linkage anyway, and from there you have several choices, but I would be getting to0 opinionated to suggest that you swap the whole thing for a 5.8L setup from a donor truck.

 

I know about the money thing, been there done that. If you want to go cheap, I would go to the junkyard and buy a 2 bbl manifold and carb + dist off a car or truck. Just make sure it will hook properly to your AOD.

I forgot your vehicle has a computer, so if you swap the VV out for a carb, then the new or used dist is going to be a necessity, along with a duraspark II box.

Maybe someone knows the year of the car or truck that would be just right to get this stuff from. It would have the 2bbl, AOD, and have the duraspark II ignition system. You might be able to go to a site like www.partsamerica.com and start plugging in vehicles and see what kind of parts they take.

You can also go to www.car-part.com and see if the local junkyards have what you need.

 

hey 82f1507.5, i've never worked on carbed vehicles....im afraid i'll get shafted buying a used carburetor

am i being realistic or will i probably be okay just finding the 2bbl w/ AOD linkage and rebuilding it?

so right now my options are 1. used 2 bbl w/ AOD + new distributor 2. used 4bbl w/ manifold and new dist 3. all new crap

if i can go back w/ a 2bbl w/ no prob then i'll do it. idk what kind of intake manifold i should get if i DO get the 4 bbl...ik im bout to get flamed for this, but are they pretty much all the same?

 

I believe 1983 is the only year for non-computer controlled 2V carburetor with AOD transmission for the 302W. In this case, you would need the 1983 2V carburetor along with the Duraspark II ignition module and distributor. I do not recommend this swap for you. I do not recommend the 4V swap for you either. Not because these swaps won't work, but more for the level of experience required to make all the adjustments when the swap is complete. I don't wish to slag your level of experience but in my opinion, you could end up damaging your AOD. I don't want to send you in that direction, and I am sure you don't want to end up there.

Let us clear up some misconceptions here. The VV carburetor mated to the AOD never was a great combination. In spite of what others have claimed, the fuel mileage under normal driving conditions rarely averaged better than 15 MPG on the full sized 80's F-Series. The F-Series truck and Ford Mustang are two completely different vehicles and not comparable at all.

If I were you, I would learn as much as I could about the VV carburetor and rebuild it myself if that is indeed what needs done. The truck runs now even if it runs terrible. You need some basic troubleshooting tools like a VOM meter, manuals, and maybe borrow a diagnostic tool if you don't have one. Once you have your manual in hand, learn what the carburetor and ignition system is supposed to do, then learn why it is not. Don't assume anything.

This is the best recommendation I can offer for you. Yes, there are other alternatives, but at this point, I can not recommend them for you.