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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Maximum Towing- Real World Maximums

I know what the book says my truck can tow, and I tow a lot more than that. My question is this- Does the Government care what the manufacturer says the truck can tow? or are they only woried that I am plated and licensed to carry that amount.

I just added up what I tow for work on one trailer, and it should tip the scales at ~19,000 lbs, plus the weight of the truck.

When I went to the scales with my smaller trailer, I was 25480 lbs loaded.

I will be buying an F550 in the near future, but for now I have 2 F250's, and they seem to tow the load fine.

I geuss I am looking for some reassurance that I am not going to be ticketed based on manufacturers recomended tow capacity........
 
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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i know others will dispute this, but in my experience as long as you have enough axles on the ground and the wieght distributed correctly among them the dot will not mess with you. When I hauled cars i was legal in 48 states to gross 42000 with my f350.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 04:10 AM
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If your truck is registered for the weight, You're set. If your truck is registered for 6000 pounds like I've seen some in IN. then you are OVERLOADED even when empty and can get a ticket. And by the logic here, you must be unsafe if you are overloaded.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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Thanks for the replys. I try to do what's right and what's safe, but sometimes it's hard to find the answers........
 
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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If your truck is registered for the weight, You're set. If your truck is registered for 6000 pounds like I've seen some in IN. then you are OVERLOADED even when empty and can get a ticket. And by the logic here, you must be unsafe if you are overloaded.
So what your saying is if the plate says I'm overloaded than I am but if I get bigger plates and they say I'm not overloaded its OK.

The weights giving by FORD are recomended weights has nothing to do with legal weight.

Bottom line is you should know what your limits are and what weight you feel confortable towing. If it feels unsafe get a bigger truck .If it feels safe to you than don't worry about it. If the numbers on the door sticker make you feel good by all means tow that weight.

Guys want to play the weight police game but more drivers are killed or hurt by speeding or drunk drivers than OVERLOADED drivers .
 

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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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I'm a concrete carpenter, structures mostly. It seem like were always taking out an over loaded trailer, the work truck is a F250 cc 4x4, 2004 v10, I try to drive as safely as possible, traffic allowing, I've never been stopped in 10 year's, truck doesn't know the loads back there,except breaking! When i bought my F350 2006, I spent a year going though GVW for towing a 37ft presidencial 5th wheel,@18000 loaded. It seems in Nevada I have to get an amended licence to haul that weight. I guess it all depends on where your from!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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The only problem I could foresee is - IF -that is a big IF - you are in a really bad accident and they recreate it and your over max GVWR for the vehicle they might consider you liable -even though you was in the right , traffic wise.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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The only problem I could foresee is - IF -that is a big IF - you are in a really bad accident and they recreate it and your over max GVWR for the vehicle they might consider you liable -even though you was in the right , traffic wise.
I guess it could happen but... so far it never has. A 747 could fall out of the sky in the road 10 feet in front of you too. Or you could win the lottrey. better chance of that happening. At least I know some people have done that.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Does any one have an idea what margin Ford has in their recommended numbers? I'm looking at being somewhere in the 5% range over on GCVW, 4% on the truck GVW, and 2% on the rear GAWR. Ford says for my 06 F350 SRW 4x4 PSD that the numbers are 23000, 11400, and 7000. I'll probably be in the 24/24.5, 12, and 7300 range.
I think the engine and transmission should be fine, and understand that I will need to watch the brakes (must likely will need to replace pads earlier then otherwise) but I'm worried about being over on the rear axle.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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Does any one have an idea what margin Ford has in their recommended numbers? I'm looking at being somewhere in the 5% range over on GCVW, 4% on the truck GVW, and 2% on the rear GAWR. Ford says for my 06 F350 SRW 4x4 PSD that the numbers are 23000, 11400, and 7000. I'll probably be in the 24/24.5, 12, and 7300 range.
I think the engine and transmission should be fine, and understand that I will need to watch the brakes (must likely will need to replace pads earlier then otherwise) but I'm worried about being over on the rear axle.
As long as you don't go over the limits for the wheels and tires you should be fine.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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Fords numbers are for performance, not safety. Lighter loads are "safer" then heavy ones but that is Natures law not one of mans. If you get tires that are rated at higher weight, the rateing on your rear axle will go up to the total of the rateings of your tires.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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I was recently pulled over and sent to the scales.I was pulling my new 20ft beavertail with my new (to me) 95 f250 PSD.after a complete inspection at the scalesI was told that I was 3700lbs over on my trailer alone.The cop did accept that I was driving slower than most and had everything including the trailer doublechained he said it was a dicresionary call and let me go as I only had 30 miles to go .However, the inspecter went to the trouble of pulling 1 wheel and drum to check my truck brakes.thats the main issue!
 
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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Sorry , I should also say that we've had some problems around here with comm. trucks losing,tires,axles ect. They now want all private trailers with lge. loads to go by the axleweights not the tire wghts. alone.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:57 AM
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You were over by 3700 lbs on a empty trailer?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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Sorry , I was in the middle of moving to my new (to me) house.I had my safe on the trailer as well as some heavy boxes of parts and tools.I did go to the trouble of removing the outer double drs. from the safe but its heavy!!! I had to get a 16ton picker to load it because we didn't know the weight.(thanks to DOT I now know its over 8000 lbs. It used to be the main safe of a dept. store before Walmart bought them out and replaced it. It's still on the trailer and the drs. are still on my truck as it was to cold to do the work (according to the friends I've lined up to help me manually remove them)
 
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