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Snow Plow...
Was trying to do some research and didn't come up with much. I got a few questions for those of you with plows...
I heard something once that the CC were not rated for plows or something, but on western's site, they just want to me to mount 510 lbs behind the rear axle. Any comments on that?
Does anyone have any experience with a V plow?
Any opinons on plowing with dually's? I know Kris might have a comment for this.
I am just looking to be able to clear our 1.5 acre lot at the shop, the driveway, and hopefully make some extra cash on the side. This would not be a business, but when 12+"s show up, I can find the time to plow...
Thanks,
I heard something once that the CC were not rated for plows or something, but on western's site, they just want to me to mount 510 lbs behind the rear axle. Any comments on that?
Does anyone have any experience with a V plow?
Any opinons on plowing with dually's? I know Kris might have a comment for this.
I am just looking to be able to clear our 1.5 acre lot at the shop, the driveway, and hopefully make some extra cash on the side. This would not be a business, but when 12+"s show up, I can find the time to plow...
Thanks,
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we have 7 snow plows, all of them Meyer and none of them V plows. We were going to try a V but never did for the reason of not wanting to go with a red plow. For counterweight, we usually put a half-pallet (1200lb) in the bed, but this last time i put 14 86-pound block in the back of my dually for counterweight, from a wall we are building at the shop. Same as a half-pallet. I do believe the idea of a V plow is very nice, but for our needs it isnt necessary as we have skidloaders come along and blow snow over the curbs instead of making piles.
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I put a Boss V-plow on my F250 and I made a weight box to go behind the real axel so I could use my gooseneck hitch. The weight box was made from treated 1x6 with plastic nailed to the bottom. I filled the box with a mixture of lead wheel weights and concrete. I have anchor mounts and chained securly to the box in 4 places. It is probly 750 lbs and is well placed. I love the v-plow, with the setup I have, the truck is almost unstopable. I have had a plow from almost every mfg, Fisher, Western, Meyers, The boss is the best and easy to hook up. Takes all of 30 seconds. I also do not have L/s axels, just extra weight and good tires. I can push my way through almost anything amd have yet to get stuck. I hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
we have 7 snow plows, all of them Meyer and none of them V plows. We were going to try a V but never did for the reason of not wanting to go with a red plow. For counterweight, we usually put a half-pallet (1200lb) in the bed, but this last time i put 14 86-pound block in the back of my dually for counterweight, from a wall we are building at the shop. Same as a half-pallet. I do believe the idea of a V plow is very nice, but for our needs it isnt necessary as we have skidloaders come along and blow snow over the curbs instead of making piles.
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we have three SRW trucks all running c7.5', a 1995 dump and a 2000 dually SCLB with c8.5's, and a 07 f-550 in that background and the 07 f-350 in my sig running c-9's. The hookup procedure on the new 3 plows is so damn simple, takes me all of about 15 seconds to hook up to the plow once i pull up to it. Plowing with the dually is not that bad, we have smaller plows for tight spots, and large plows for really moving snow on the wide streets at the ginormous nursing home community that we concentrate most of the workforce at. The 165"WB F-550 (2007)- i can guarantee that it turns tighter than a regular cab 99-04 truck! I would never put a plow on my personal truck, aside from the common sense reasons about it being mine, just the fact that it's too dang long. I do find myself "steering with the rear wheels and throttle" some times in wide open areas. Sure some call it fooling around, but if you can do it under control it really cuts down on steering.
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From: Byron, IL
I have a v-plow on my truck 8'5 and I dont have any weight in the back end I love the v-plow it makes clean up easy and you can pile snow alot higher with it Mine is a Western but the next one I buy will be a Boss
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I've got a 7.5' Boss straight blade on mine, it's not enough plow for the truck. I'm going to install wings this summer to make it either 8.5' or 9'.
I know what you mean by too long. I only use it to plow my own drive, which is mostly straight. If I had a twisty driveway it would be a big PITA to plow with a CC LB truck.
Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
I would never put a plow on my personal truck, aside from the common sense reasons about it being mine, just the fact that it's too dang long.
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Luckily I only plow Commercial lots like Wal-mart,big long runs so i have alot of room to turn around. I couldnt dream of plowing driveways with a ext cab LB since it can barely turn around on a football field
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We have a CC SB with a 8' or 8.5' (cant remember) fisher, and a EC SB with a 8'fisher v plow. Im not sure about them not "rating" a CC for plow service. I dont have any experience with western, and ive only ever looked close to one boss plow, and im not sure that any of them are as heavy as a fisher. Im not saying that asin a quality fashion, but as far as weight goes, i think the fishers are the heaviest. i also love the way they trip over, meyers, and some others. Its just the cutting edge that trips, instead of the whole blade. if youve every rammed a pile of snow, you would understand the benifit of the way the fishers trip works. The v plow is neat, and has its applications, but for long swooped passes, it seems you have to watch it, because it will fold back in some, it might just be that the valves arent holding like they used to, but you have to watch them. Thats just my .02, not trying to start a debate.
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I am not continuing a debate, just adding info...
I have done a lot of research on plows and found out the following:
Bottom trip plows are designed for use in certain geographic areas (I think I read this at douglas dynamics website). I have had one and it was really nice to use. When the ground is still soft, you only muck up a little bit of yard when it catches. Fisher makes a nice blade, but their mounting system needs some refinement. Myers is common and easy to work on. I think I can mount a myers faster than the Fisher minute mount. I can also rebuild a myers e40 unit with my eyes closed. I dont know if this is good thing or not. Western is a good blade, light enough to move alone. Boss blades are just frickin expensive. I bought a boss 8.5 poly v blade, AND it weighs more than the steel blade, somewhere around 960 lbs, not counting the massive mount. I have found that I can hitch up the boss in 30 seconds or so, just drive into the blade, plug inthe harness and flip the lever. Raise the blade and go. I cant say I have not had problems, I think have a solenoid going bad, does not always like to lift.
I never thought I would like a poly blade, but so far, its nice. No snow sticking, no rusting.
I have done a lot of research on plows and found out the following:
Bottom trip plows are designed for use in certain geographic areas (I think I read this at douglas dynamics website). I have had one and it was really nice to use. When the ground is still soft, you only muck up a little bit of yard when it catches. Fisher makes a nice blade, but their mounting system needs some refinement. Myers is common and easy to work on. I think I can mount a myers faster than the Fisher minute mount. I can also rebuild a myers e40 unit with my eyes closed. I dont know if this is good thing or not. Western is a good blade, light enough to move alone. Boss blades are just frickin expensive. I bought a boss 8.5 poly v blade, AND it weighs more than the steel blade, somewhere around 960 lbs, not counting the massive mount. I have found that I can hitch up the boss in 30 seconds or so, just drive into the blade, plug inthe harness and flip the lever. Raise the blade and go. I cant say I have not had problems, I think have a solenoid going bad, does not always like to lift.
I never thought I would like a poly blade, but so far, its nice. No snow sticking, no rusting.
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Just to add my input, I found an 8 ft. Fisher MM at a bargain that needed paint and welding. I think this is great on a CC short bed but I could see how a shorter truck would be much more manuverable. For me and what I use it for it`s great! This last big storm we got was it`s first real test with 14 inches plus drifts and shoulder piles and I really never had to go above 1500 RPM with the torque these trucks put out. I just bought some morter sand bags and tossed 500 lbs. in the bed. Between that and the 800+lb. plow it`s unstoppable.
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From: Ft. Wayne, IN
I have an 8' Western on my 99 CC and I do some fairly large lots (one is a 30 acre insurance complex and the other is a 44 acre FedEx distribution center). I don't like doing small lots such as banks and small shopping centers because of the size of the truck, but sometimes I do to help out. I also have 500 lbs. of sand bags in the back and it doesn't feel like enough. I also get paid by the hour, so I'm glad I don't have a V-blade.
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Originally Posted by nmcqueen469
I have an 8' Western on my 99 CC and I do some fairly large lots (one is a 30 acre insurance complex and the other is a 44 acre FedEx distribution center). I don't like doing small lots such as banks and small shopping centers because of the size of the truck, but sometimes I do to help out. I also have 500 lbs. of sand bags in the back and it doesn't feel like enough. I also get paid by the hour, so I'm glad I don't have a V-blade.
This made a BIG difference in my rear wheel traction. If you have a LS rear I would recommend trying this.