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i was wondering how many of you out there are running a pre-post luber, like the ESP brand one.
Is it more important to have one these, over the bypass filter, if you had to chose one or the other?
I can't afford to buy both right now but want to eventually have both installed on my truck. I had planned on buying the oilguard system or the fs2500, and then saw the pre-post luber and got to thinking that maybe it'll be better to install that first.
any thoughts on how good these things work, are they only meant for heavily modified engines? i know the price tag isn't cheap.
i would think if the 2 seconds before the oil pressure comes up, is causing a lot of wear and tear, then vehicles, espcially diesels wouldn't last as long as they do.
not trying to spend money foolishly. just trying to figure out what is really needed and what' isn't. i dont want to install something, just so i can say that i have it on my truck.
Definatly the pre/post luber first. It doesn't extend the oils life, it extends the mechanical parts life by eliminating dry starts, and hot spotting or coking after shutdown.
how long do they take to install? and does it operate completely separate from the bypass system? looks like they both use the fillercap and the oil filter cap.
is the ESP brand the only one out there or are there better ones than that? i'm sure they all work pretty much the same.
With all the talk lately about by-pass filters, I am wondering why no one has considered a spinner filter. Note book paper is all that is needed to when you clean it. They work, as do the bypass setups mentioned in the other threads.
the stock canister housing will hold more than enough oil for start up..almost all of your wear comes from particles in the oil....a by-pass will be more than enough....
the stock canister housing will hold more than enough oil for start up..almost all of your wear comes from particles in the oil....a by-pass will be more than enough....
While that is true to a certain extent, alot of the hard deposits are coke, which can be eliminated due to post lubing. 99% of all turbo failures are caused by turbo bearing coking and or the drain line stopping up with coke. We don't have by-pass filters on all of our units, but they all have pre-lube systems, the larger ones have pre/post lube systems. Could they get by without them? Probably, but the ones that disable them or by-pass them to start quicker have made me alot of money changing main bearings and crankshafts prematurely. While it is not uncommon for these engines to go 300k without any additions, $1000 spent on a system that may help it last to 500K would be very smart money spent.
I did consider using the spinner II. Priced one out, checked with a friend who is a tech at a local Ford dealership to see where and how to mount the unit and the associated hoses. I think the over all concept is an excellent idea but we ran into a couple of problems.
1. Where to tie the return line back into the oil pan.
2. How to tie into the oil pan. We considered welding a weld-o-let onto the oil pan and running the return line to that.
3. How to get the oil pan off (lack of clearance to pull the pan off)
Mounting the spinner would not be a big problem but we would need a place to tie into a pressurized oil line to supply proper amount of oil at the needed pressure.
I did called Oilguard to see if I could buy just one of there anodised oil filter caps that has a tapped port on the top and use that for the oil supply. They said no.
With all of the difficultieswith installing this I decided I would just use a bypass.