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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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I've not heard anything positive about the superrunner setup. Some guy was selling one locally for $100, I almost jumped on it but was talked out of spending even that much on it., let alone retail price.

I know more than a few people have had to return their boxes a few times.. just tell us where the play is, make sure the truck is on. Turn your wheel very little back and forth and tell us what happens? There's really no other way to troubleshoot it at this point unless you wanna replace even more stuff until you find the cause.

You also just might not be happy with the geering in the steering box.. redhead will do you one custom, I think. I don't care how brandnew your frontend is, your box is always going to have a bit more 'slop' feeling to it than a small car, especially with larger non-road tires (especially in offroad conditions). I hit gravel and my truck with EVERYTHING new in the frontend will feel like I can turn the wheel 90 degrees without moving in any direction, it's just the nature of the beast, especially a lifted one on a non-sticky surface. My Saginaw pump just made that feeling worse.
It's part of the reason we can move 36'' tires with one finger at a standstill in these things.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by g_k50
Did you get a Ford steering box? Might solve your problem.
I have used Ford steering boxes last three times.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
Noticed tighter steering after changing ALL body and front end bushings as well as ALL Ujoints.<o></o>
My steering has deteriorated over the last 1500miles. After full alignment, the steering still feels loose beyond 45mph, any wind and my bronc is lane changing.<o></o>
 
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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The Superunner steering setup is a sound investment IF you have a MINIMUM 4" suspension lift. It WILL NOT WORK with anything less and for good reason. It actually adds a drag link and idler arm (which mounts to the Superlift axle drop bracket) to the steering which brings the alignment of the steering linkage more in sync with the TTB axle halves. Bump-steer is all but eliminated when the system is added and there are aftermarket manufacturers who specify that their steering components should ONLY be used in conjunction WITH the Superunner setup.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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The rod end flip has mine level.. I get less bump steer than on most cars I drive.. I mean, it basically eliminated it completely.

I swear if you read, just about noone recommends the superrunner kit.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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I think that has more to do with price then quality. Superlift makes some good lift.kits I imagine the set-up can't be to bad.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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The price is up there for "steering components" but the gains in off-road and off-camber situations are head and shoulders above the horrendous bump-steer conditions that exist without it. If you don't get into sticky situations with your TTB truck then its a lot of money for no noticeable difference as you cruise the highways and by-ways or even play in the mud. HOWEVER, for those of us who do like to pick our way through rocks and craters it keeps the incessant argument with the steering wheel to a minimum. Add to those pluses the fact that Performance Unlimited ONLY sells their Bulletproof Steering components for use WITH the Superunner setup and you can get your hands on a steering setup that makes maneuvering under rotten conditions not only easier but virtually indestructible.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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It's a $500 system that is worse quality than stock.. you have to spend a good amount just to get it to trail level where it isn't going to fall apart on you, and once you upgrade the superrunner to a point where it doesn't feel like garbage, you might as well go with a different setup.

I dunno, prove me wrong because I still might get one myself.. but I cannot find anyone that says "yeah, I know what I'm talking about, I have one and I absolutely love it".. People end up completely replacing it with like a swing-arm or custom setup, or replace it when they have to change out the welded end that costs $150 through them and can't be replaced anywhere else.

I do know one thing, you will never find a steering system in my truck that I have to wait on replacement parts for.. especially if I'm wheeling.. and if I'm gonna spend another $200 to $300 to 'upgrade' it to the point i'm happy and safe, i'll go with a better custom system.

I don't mean to be a jerk, if I sound like one I'm sorry, it's been a rough few days. Brand new Ford Racing wires shooting sparks all over the place and for some reason it wants to start just after doing a timing chain on the hottest week we have had in Indiana all year..

these are just the reason I don't have the system, it doesn't mean I'm not wrong, honestly I have absolutely no experience with the system myself, I just know I researched the heck out of it because I came *this close to buying one myself. I lived with minor bumpsteer with 4'' coils, couldn't stand it with Deaver 5.5s, I did the tie rod flip and I get less bumpsteer than any vehicle I have ever driven.

though this is all about play in the steering anyways. I really think most people's issues come down to bigger tires that don't feel as tight on the road or on soft surfaces, flex in the rods that are goign to come with bigger tires, camber issues (for those of you that havent done the bushings), and not being use to the low gearing (im assuming this) in the bronco's steering box.
A lifted truck with 35'' all terrain tires is just never going to handle speed and drive as straight as a stock truck with 235/75s, I don't care how much money you have in it. I guess there is always room for improvement, but every single component in my system is new, sure, it drives relatively straight but it is definitely nowhere near responsive.


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greystreak, do you work for Superrunner? Honestly, I hated the setup like 5 minutes ago but now you have me wanting to buy one.
"WITH the Superunner setup and you can get your hands on a steering setup that makes maneuvering under rotten conditions almost pleasurable. " Should be the product's tagline.. that was really well said :P
 
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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Not a sales guy but I've seen it in action under several trail rigs and in spite of the "bad press" and the fact that its over-priced, the geometry changes ARE a marked improvement over the ridiculous inverted Y that came under the stock TTB trucks. The truth of the matter is, with the right skill set, you could fabricate a GOOD version of the system that uses "stock" components. All the re-engineered Superunner setup does is change the inverted Y to a typical drag-link system like those found under old GM cars and trucks. But for those who lack the skills or the tools, its functional and the Bulletproof Steering upgrade leaves it stout to say the least. If I am gonna be a "commercial" for anything in my previous posts though it would be the Bulletproof Steering components.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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How do you do the tie rod end flip ? the knuckle has a tapered bore ??
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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You buy a reamer to taper the hole on the other end.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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Cool sounds pretty easy....thought you had to buy special knuckles or something
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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The fun part is trying to find the reamer, theyr'e about $100.. I think it's 7.5degrees per foot but I'm not 100% sure.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Who did yours ? Do you have the reamer ?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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I spent 100 for mine on summit.. wanna offer me something for it?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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Allstar Performance ALL11170 - Allstar Performance Taper Reamers - Overview - SummitRacing.com

Like this one?
 
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