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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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Fuel Pump Tsb

Could Anyone Here Let Me Know What Tsb Is Related To The Use Of An Amature Radio And The Frequency At Which It Could Damage The Fuel Pump.

A Fella Wants To Buy My Neighbors House And Put Up A 50' Ham Radio Antenna. One Of My Other Neighbors Did Some Investigating On What Would Interfere With The Operation Of The Radio Which Inlculed Garage Door Openers, Wireless Internet, Video Game Consoles And Yes, Ford Fuel Pumps. She Even Told Me Ford Has A Tsb On The Problem And The Solution.

I Would Like To Read Over The Tsb And See What Is Says.

I Know Its Not The Correct Forum But Any Pros And Cons Of Ham Radio Operation Would Be Greatly Appreciated(with Any Web Links)
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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Try looking at these...though I am not sure this is what you are referring to:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/full...hp?tsb=02-16-4
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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sometimes you cannot go on what you are told. the girl was kind on the right path about the radio interferance on fords. but i came from itself

.....Now, on to the fuel pump radio noise problem. If you like to listen to distant AM stations, you are simply out of luck, with just about any model Ford since about 1990, when they started putting in-tank fuel pumps in their vehicles. There have been several technical service bulletins put out on this issue over the years (the fuel pump noise is described as "a whining or buzzing noise, coming from the vehicle speakers"), suggesting the dealer install a Radio Frequency Interference (RFI) filter kit on the fuel pump power leads (necessitating dropping the tank and removing the pump assembly -- not for the shade-tree mechanic). If the vehicle is still under warranty, Ford will attempt the fix, otherwise, it will cost you, in spite of the fact that this isn't really a warranty issue (it's a defective fuel pump design -- they left out parts that would prevent the interference, figuring that few, if any, folks would complain).

After getting the RFI filter installed (and to the dealer's credit, they agreed to do it for a $100 deductible, even after the warranty had expired), I find that there is essentially no improvement in the situation. In my opinion, the RFI filter used is a "once size fits all" solution, and more than likely isn't really tuned to exact application, here. To be really effective, the components (chokes and capacitors) need to be directly mounted on the pump terminals (inside the pump would be even better.....


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http://www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_50057.html

i have found some very usefull infomation that will be presented to the currnet home owner this evening, about interferences
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Some general info for all: Amateur radio signals are not permitted to impact other systems such as broadcast radio & TV. In this case, the "Ham" (radio amatuer) will (usually) try to work with the effected parties to solve the problem by filtering or other methods. If that solution fails, the ham may have to operate during restricted hours or bands as determined by your FCC folks. That said, there are some systems such as garage door openers and the like which do not generally enjoy the same protection (even from each other). So far as the electronics on your vehicle, there is to my knowledge no way that an amateur station could cause problems unless it is actually installed in the vehicle. Most cars / trucks produced these days (and for years before) have special instructions for installing any transmitter in the vehicle. Hope this helps to clarify things a bit.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Shouldn't be any problems with the radio guy, as long as he abides by the FCC. If you get problems with him you can report him and the FCC will investigate..... This is serious stuff for the FCC.

Growing up one of our neighbors had a pretty powerful radio setup. It would make the stove vent (through the ceiling) howl something fierce when he keyed it on certain frequencies.....

If he plays by the rules you'll never know he broadcasting on the radio. If he cranks on the power you'll notice all kinds of weird stuff going on!!!
 
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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I can see no Way that a Ham radio is going to mess the operation of the fuel pump, I have seen radio frequencies do a lot of things but that would defiantly be way out of the ordinary.


Now as for the garage door that very well could be affected but only if it a old system most of the new systems are not going to be affected by it.

A wireless network may experience a bad connection when the radio is transmitting due to possible signal bleedover but more than likely it would only be a distance issue not a in the house issue, Ham is nowhere near 2.4Ghz that wireless networks are on.

Most interference from hams and CBs is due to the user running a amp on them boosting the transmit from 4 watts to 500 watts or more tends to cause a lot of bleedover interference. If this is the case they can always turn it down or off or face the FCC. Normal operation should not be a problem though.
 
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