I'm in Monroe but not for long I'll be out of here next weekend.

 

Does anybody know what this carb will cost?

 

Check with Jeggs or Summit.

 

I couldn't find it on either of their sites.

 

Since this appears to be a yet to be released (to retail) product, I don't think you'll find any pricing online. Not sure what Edelbrock carbs cost, but I think it should be priced comparably, or slightly above other 600 CFM Edelbrock carbs.

 

You will have to use that antiquated device called the telephone for any advanced info if it is available.

 

Not to be preaching here but remember that if you buy E85 that the money stays in this country and doesnt go out to countries that hate our guts.

 

Even if your vehicle took E-85 it would be dumb to use it. YOu get tarable mialage with E-85. Hell I loose 4.5 MPG in the city with just E-10 in my Jeep. E-85 is not worth it. It costs less but you get 2/3rds the mialage. In the end you loose... big...

 

I think most of the folks who would use an E85 carburetor wouldn't be all that concerned with fuel mileage. Plus, most of them would probably have a need for the 105 octane rating due to a higher compression ratio than stock. This higher compression ratio would improve the fuel mileage, but again, if there's the need to run E85, fuel mileage is probably not one of their main concerns.

 

My question would be what would be the difference between an E85 carb and any other carb produced today. I think all new carbs and rebuild kits have alcohol resistant seals and such. Why not just rejet and tune your old one. I do realize it would be better to buy one presetup if you did not have a rebuildable core.

 

All you have to do is re-jet rich enough for E-85. Understand that an E-85 carb setup is not flex-fuel. With the richer jetting you could not run straight gasoline, or at least it would not run well.

Jim

 

Then something is wrong with your Jeep. My Explorer's mileage is unaffected by E10. I had it converted to E85 last fall, and the mileage dropped a couple MPG.

 

I think we have the cheapest E85 here. There are a handful of stations that are owned by the ethanol plant, and they sell it dirt cheap.

Right now regular unleaded is $3.429/gal. and E85 is $2.319/gal.

I'm saving at least 20 bucks every tankful!

Oh, and for those who are saying E-85 is stupid to use even if your vehicle can take it...My mileage isn't anywhere near as bad as some people are scared into thinking. On gas, EPA rated my truck at 15/20, and I've gotten a low of 12 and a high of 17 burning E85.
The 20 MPG rating on gasoline is all but unattainable too. Guys with regular gas-burner Explorers of similar year say 17-18 MPG on the highway is about all they can get on the best day.

That popular rumor of 2/3rds the MPG of gas when running E-85 is just a scare tactic and myth that the worthless rag Consumer Reports is spouting as actual truth. Nothing could be further from it.

 

It would be interesting to know what your numbers on gasoline would be. But using what you've posted, your low of 12mpg IS 2/3 of the 17-18mpg you report the gas burners are able to get.

 

So Cornblower; if you are losing an average of 3mpg; according to your numbers; then on an average 18 gallon tank, you are losing 54 miles. That means you need another 4.5 gallons of your E85 to gain back what you lost. At the price you quoted, that means you spend an additional $10.44; which in turn means you are only saving about $9.50 compared to straight gasoline.

Now, saving $9.50 a fillup is still nothing to sneeze at. There is something positive about that. It appears however that each person needs to validate their mileage loss individually. Plus, I am still not 100% positive that Ethanol is better for the environment or for human health. That however is a separate issue. I do know however that for the E10 that is sold where I live, the cost is almost identical to regular gas. I get less gas mileage using E10, therefore it is cheaper to use regular gas. Plus it ultimately puts less polutants into the environment.

The whole thing about buying ethanol 85 because all the money is kept in this country, is very misleading. When you understand Macro-economics on at the global economy level you realize that there are just as many negatives as there are positives for that theory. Plus, people don't realize that we actually import "Refined" products such as gasoline because our loving liberals make it almost impossible to build more and modern refineries. If we had enough refineries, it would be cost effective to refine more domestic oil. A lot of our oil isn't pumped because we can't keep up with refining what we have now. Add to that the fact that corn prices have gone up 55% from an average of $2 to $3.10 a bushel. Then add how much MORE corn is going to be needed for the increased desire to use ethanol. The extra acreage to grow it, the fossil fuels used to plant it, grow it, harvest it, process it, etc... Still a lot of electricity and gas/diesel involved. I haven't seen too many ethanol electrical power plants in existance. The point is, most people don't realize that ethanol isn't the saviour of our fuel needs. Here's a decent article.

http://www.financialsense.com/editor...2007/0202.html

However, as long as the government is subsidizing Archer Daniels Midland and the other ethanol producers and farmers $0.56 to $1.00 (Because of loopholes in equipment and support), the price of ethanol can be lower. The environmental issues however are still of major concern. Of course, if they got rid of corn, used other products that were more efficient, and took care of the environmental issues and subsidies, ethanol would be a much more valid solution. For now, I just don't see it. Later... Mike.....