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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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SCT Flash while utilizing the Banks PDA??

I currently run the Banks Six-Gun and PDA. The PDA has all the gauges wrapped up in one and I already have it hooked up. I want get an SCT and try it out. I called Banks and they said that LEVEL 1 is strictly a bypass and does not change any parameters. Hmm. Big question is...does leaving it in level one REALLY bypass the Six-gun? If this is the case, I should be able to do the SCT Flash, put my Banks into Level 1 and utilize all the features of the PDA and benefit from the programming of the SCT. I'll just have to tape off the level selector button...
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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I don't know why you couldn't. It was done early on with the edge for tranny shifting issues. The Banks doesn't flash the computer like the SCT does, so you should be OK, but check with the resident tuner, I'm sure he knows.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by badbrad60
I currently run the Banks Six-Gun and PDA. The PDA has all the gauges wrapped up in one and I already have it hooked up. I want get an SCT and try it out. I called Banks and they said that LEVEL 1 is strictly a bypass and does not change any parameters. Hmm. Big question is...does leaving it in level one REALLY bypass the Six-gun? If this is the case, I should be able to do the SCT Flash, put my Banks into Level 1 and utilize all the features of the PDA and benefit from the programming of the SCT. I'll just have to tape off the level selector button...
sounds like a good idea. like adding a tuner to a chip.. but you can only sqeeze out some much from you injectors.. I mean Head Gaskets!!!
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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you kinda missed the point, but I hear ya. Not trying to stack for double and (screwed up head bolt breaking power), just utilizing the PDA and it's gauges and supplement the SCT. For example. If the SCT is so versatile, then I should be able to use it to disable the EGR strategy and use the banks for gauges. To me, it gives me more flexibility. As I have found out, simply disconnecting the EGR plug isn't always the best answer. The PCM strategy changes when the plug is just removed. The SCT, if I choose, will let me do just that..and only that.
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sounds like a good idea. like adding a tuner to a chip.. but you can only sqeeze out some much from you injectors.. I mean Head Gaskets!!!
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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[QUOTE=badbrad60]you kinda missed the point, but I hear ya. Not trying to stack for double and (screwed up head bolt breaking power), just utilizing the PDA and it's gauges and supplement the SCT. For example. If the SCT is so versatile, then I should be able to use it to disable the EGR strategy and use the banks for gauges. To me, it gives me more flexibility. As I have found out, simply disconnecting the EGR plug isn't always the best answer. The PCM strategy changes when the plug is just removed. The SCT, if I choose, will let me do just that..and only that.[/QUOTE
I would not recommend unplugging snesors either it forces the PCM to not look at it and not use it's input. Instead it just goes in fail safe mode and uses a look up table to control outputs.. i see what you mean, But seriously I have a 96 w/ all banks stuff and is awesome, Is the 6gun not that good?? or do you just want to experiment for the $300 w/ the SCT?? I am interested in an SCT too, waiting to hear back from them on some questions 1st though..
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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18vtx00...Don't get me wrong. I am stoked on the Banks stuff. But....I haven't had anything but the Banks on my truck, so I don't know what I've have or don't have. It's like having 25 settings on your dirtbike forks and NEVER changing them...you'll never know what you are missing. You may be on spot..you may not. Bottom line is that I just like to play. Couple things I don't like about the Banks. 1) No EGR choices. 2) Shifting at higher levels is soft, and although it is a safegaurd, it seems overkill, with no way to modify other than fueling. Im not saying Im going to get rid of the Banks.., Im just curious about the SCT (from all the folks here at FTE) hyping it up so much. It would be really cool to spend $300 or whatever on the SCT and not have to rip out all my Banks stuff to see if I like it. If I do find that I like the SCT better, I will, in the interim, be able to use the PDA (in level 1) which is supposed to be bypass, so I can use it for gauges. As far as I know, I could tecnically JUST use the SCT to disable my EGR strategy with a reflash and use the Banks Six Gun as it was designed to be used. From what the folks with the Know say...SCT all the way. I've got some other issues Im working out now, so I may not do this for a month or so. I'll let you know when I do. ~Brad
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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18vtx00...Don't get me wrong. I am stoked on the Banks stuff. But....I haven't had anything but the Banks on my truck, so I don't know what I've have or don't have. It's like having 25 settings on your dirtbike forks and NEVER changing them...you'll never know what you are missing. You may be on spot..you may not. Bottom line is that I just like to play. Couple things I don't like about the Banks. 1) No EGR choices. 2) Shifting at higher levels is soft, and although it is a safegaurd, it seems overkill, with no way to modify other than fueling. Im not saying Im going to get rid of the Banks.., Im just curious about the SCT (from all the folks here at FTE) hyping it up so much. It would be really cool to spend $300 or whatever on the SCT and not have to rip out all my Banks stuff to see if I like it. If I do find that I like the SCT better, I will, in the interim, be able to use the PDA (in level 1) which is supposed to be bypass, so I can use it for gauges. As far as I know, I could tecnically JUST use the SCT to disable my EGR strategy with a reflash and use the Banks Six Gun as it was designed to be used. From what the folks with the Know say...SCT all the way. I've got some other issues Im working out now, so I may not do this for a month or so. I'll let you know when I do. ~Brad
EVERYONE ON here used to bash Banks and me because they say they are overpriced and not worth it.. but on my 96 you could not beat the power or mileage.. no smoke like alot of others i have driven, shifted way better than stock and other tuners too. also my EGTS never ever got over 900 post even heavyily loaded.. i had a few friends w/ similar trucks and other chips and they smoked bad ..really bad, shifted poor and only got 12mpg, not the 18 like mine will. they do seem to cost a bit more than picing a kit together from other companies, but they tested and warratied it as a kit so you can trust it.. good luck, the big hoss also has the intake elbow and intercooler and no other kit does, so tyou know you have a huge advantage in the temps there.. and not tuner can match the whole set up you have.. i wanted the 6 gun, but i do not have 3500 to spend..
 
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