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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Pricing an IDI like Dave's

I just priced out a 6.9 IDI like Dave S's....WOW!!!

$7,800.00......includes
-magnafluxed block
-head studs
-7.3 valves, seals, rocker arms
-ceramic coated heads
-94 turbo IP & injectors
-lift pump
-fluids

that does not include
-turbo
-milled heads
-installation
-TAXES

So you add a turbo, installation and taxes.....
$13,000.00 Canadian

I can buy a rebuilt 93 5.9 turbo cummins with an intercooler for $6,200.00!!
 
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bc6.9
I just priced out a 6.9 IDI like Dave S's....WOW!!!

$7,800.00......includes
-magnafluxed block
-head studs
-7.3 valves, seals, rocker arms
-ceramic coated heads
-94 turbo IP & injectors
-lift pump
-fluids

that does not include
-turbo
-milled heads
-installation
-TAXES

So you add a turbo, installation and taxes.....
$13,000.00 Canadian

I can buy a rebuilt 93 5.9 turbo cummins with an intercooler for $6,200.00!!
Maybe I should quite digging holes and build motors since i only have 4500 in mine, but I did do all the labor part myself.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Dave,
Maybe you should if you only have $4500 in your 6.9L, because my friend has $9000 in his 7.3L (this is w/ everything including turbo, inter cooler, exhaust, heads, and machine work). He is also up grading the pistons and valves and he replaced the heads, because they were cracked. He is a mechanic and is doing everything, but the machine work himself. He's not a bargan shoper if you couldn't tell!!
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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So you add a turbo, installation and taxes.....
$13,000.00 Canadian


Makes a new Powerstroke F-350 @ $CDN 50,000 look darn right cheap doesn't it. You get the whole truck, not just an engine.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bc6.9
I just priced out a 6.9 IDI like Dave S's....WOW!!!

$7,800.00......includes
-magnafluxed block
-head studs
-7.3 valves, seals, rocker arms
-ceramic coated heads
-94 turbo IP & injectors
-lift pump
-fluids
I thought Dave S. got his 94 turbo IP and Injectors from a donor truck for close to nothing? I also believe he decided against ceramic coated heads because the ceramic coating can flake off and cause cylinder damage...
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bc6.9
I can buy a rebuilt 93 5.9 turbo cummins with an intercooler for $6,200.00!!

Well, There ya go, there's the answer for ya.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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I replaced my turbo, but I already had the plumbing.
Skipped the ceramic coating, but added milling the pistons down.
Never milled the heads.
Don't see balancing the engine in your price.
Cam and lifters and all bearings and gaskets are also missing.

I did have a good many hours in the project, but not 8,000 dollars worth.

Till you get all the adapters and related parts you will be in the same price range with the Cummins.
The big thing I don't like about that swap is you are not going to run down to Ford or Dodge and get some of the parts you might break.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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That price did include bearings, cam & lifters but not balenced....and I meant milled pistons not heads.

I don't think the price of the cummins install will reach $13,000.00...remember, I already have the conversion kit, came with the truck.

As far as not been able to run down to a Ford or Cummins dealership for parts...I can't see that being a problem Dave, there is not all that much in the conversion kit
-motor mounts
-pulley
-upper waterneck
-alternator bracket
-most of everything else is a Ford or Cummins part

The biggest hurdle I have, as I belive others, while mechanicaly inclined, I'm not a mechanic....I belive I can install the an engine....but rebuild one is a different story.

So take the price of the install, approx. $2,000.00 from $13,000.00, thats $11,000.00....and It still wouldn't be the same as yours, Dave.

Or we can look at it another way.....the cummins comes complete with a turbo and intercooler and at $6,200.00, thats a far cry from $7800.00....add a turbo and your well over $10,000.00 and that does not include an intercooler!

If I knew some one in the busness, I immagine the price would be considerately less...but I don't!

So unless you start building engines for us guys in the forum Dave, looks like I'm going to have a Cummins in my Ford!!
 

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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Well bc6.9, I will be able to tell you more accuratly what it is worth if you are in the buisness... I will be pulling my 6.9L and looking into rebuilding and turboing it at the same time... Should be looking into that in the next month....

Who are you using for parts??
Who are you planning on using for a machine shop??
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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Bob, that's my point, I'm not rebuilding the engine....I'm having the engine rebuilt for me.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Who have you contacted about rebuilding your engine??

If you are mechanically inclined, why not do the following:

-Remove you own engine
-Remove all your major components... heads, intake, IP... and so on...
-take your complete short bolck and head to have them re-built
-take your rebuilt short block and rebuilt heads and re assemble the engine...
-re install...

No turbo I cant see that costing more than $5000.....
 
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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Ohhh... and for the Cummins, dont they require a core engine in return???
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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North American Diesels, is where I got the quote.
-I have an 84 IDI, not the best for a rebuild
-the rebuilt 6.9 would be a late 85 to 87

The Cummins is a private sale, actually it the machinest this diesel shop has used for the last 15 years....
-no core charge
-no pst
-no gst.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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do the cummins! for $6200 canadain not taxes.... and you have the conversion kit??? Do the cummins!
 
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