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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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94 351 no start problem

My 94 F150 just decided to not start today. I checked the repair manual. Plugged a voltmeter into the tach lead at the coil. Whe I turn the motor over I see a steady 12volts, and according to the manual it should be a pulsating reading from 0 to 12 volts indicating the coil is firing. I put an ohmeter on the coil and it tests good. Next I performed an ohmeter test from the connector on the ignition module and it read less than 5 ohms. So, I pulled the ignition module and took it to Auto Zone. They tested it and the first test it showed to be good. I asked them to retest it and this time it failed. Saw it with my own eyes. So, I replaced the ignition module and it still won't start... I know it is not a fuel problem as I can smell gas and I can hear the pump when I turn the key to start... Suggestions ???
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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can you start it if you shoot some starting fluid in it
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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pull the plugs and see if they are firing
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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Plugs may be flooded from the bad module. Dose your injection system shut off the fuel when you depress throttle? If so it may be flooded and you need to clear it.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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You have a bad Hall Effect Stator Assembly sensor in your distributor.

Hall Effect Stator Assembly AKA (CMP sensor) - Camshaft Position AKA PIP sensor AKA pickup coil.
Number 4 in the bottom diagram.

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http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...HallEffect.gif

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...ion/Image2.gif
 
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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Is the Hall Efecft Stator Assy sensor item #5 in the second illustration or just part of it? I.E., 4 or 8
 
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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I could have phrased that better... Is the Hall effect device item 8 or 4 & is 5 the Assy?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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I am still thinking it is still flooded and the plugs are to wet to fire. And the more ya try the wetter they get. See if ya got fire at the coil wire and or the plug wires before throwing more parts at It. At least I would.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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Came back & looked at it for the 3rd time... Yeah, feel like idiot
 
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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Came back & looked at it for the 3rd time... Yeah, feel like idiot
Oops, I am mistaken it is 8 in the diagram not 4.
Here is the key to that diagram.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g91/subford/Electrical/Ignition/Image2A.gif

Hall Effect Stator Assembly AKA (CMP sensor) - Camshaft Position AKA PIP sensor AKA pickup coil.
 

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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I will check the distributor tomorrow. Question, if the Hall Effect pick up is defective is it replacable ? or do I need to but a new distributor ??
 
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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I will check the distributor tomorrow. Question, if the Hall Effect pick up is defective is it replacable ?
Yes it is but you will need a press.
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or do I need to but a new distributor ??
Most members just replace the distributor.

And do not forget to take out the SPOUT jumper while timing the engine.
 
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