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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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Changing Plugs

I've been reading in the 04 to 07 forums about the spark plugs breaking off in the heads on some 04 F-150's during a change. My truck is still on warranty so I called the dealership to determine who pays if this does happen. They advised that they would pay for the fix if it were to happen(TSB) so I'm getting it done on Wednesday.

The only problem from what I was told is that if they do break and end up having to remove the heads, they have to lift the cab from the frame to get the heads off! Three days without the truck!

They better put lots of anti-seize on the threads because next time it will be me changing them!
 
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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I think it might be due the the aluminum heads. As a tip do not remove spark plugs from a hot aluminum heads or you can ruin the treads for break the sparkplug. It's due to the aluminum expanding and putting pressure on the plugs.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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I`ve heard that happens so it`s a good idea to let the Ford dealer change the plugs, especially if it`s still under warranty. The anti-seize on the threads is a good idea too, just hope they do it right.
Does the dealer have any suggestions on how to prevent this and what is the cause?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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Yeah the dealership is changing them. I'll do it next time since the warranty will be off by then. The problem seems to with the plug corroding itself into the head. They also changed the spark plugs for these trucks. I hope they come out easy, I did it myself on my Cobra and it was one of the easiest jobs ever.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Aluminum heads? With the long interval for plug changes that could be a bad deal.
The Cobra had the same heads?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Yeah the F-150 has 3 valve aluminum heads on an iron block. The Cobra has 4 valve aluminum heads on an aluminum block.

I'd hate to see how difficult it would be to get the plugs out if they were in there until the scheduled maintenance time!
 
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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On my motorcycles I always let the engine cool overnight before removing them and in the fall before putting it away I would just take the plugs out and back in just to make sure they didn't freeze in the block over winter. I didn't bother with any anti seize stuff, but I usually only put on 10 -15 ks per year.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Have you heard if the TSB is for 2006 aswell?

I have read about this a few times lately and am kind of concerned about it. I only have 22,000k so far and have read they should be ok till 40, but was the dealership changing them out for free?
 
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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I believe that the problem was with the shroud near the electrode being too tight of a tolerance in the head and not the threads themselves. I think they updated the spark plugs sometime in 05 but it wouldn't hurt to check with your local dealer.

I will be paying for the plug change ($15/plug and 2 hours labour!) but at least the dealer will cover the rest of the issue if the plugs do seize in the heads. I was supposed to have it done today but something else came up so it will be later on. The dealer told me to wait for the recommended 100,000km service interval but I would rather do it before a problem starts. I keep the post updated.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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The bill for for the changing the plugs may not be cheap but like you say it`s good insurance in case of trouble.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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UPDATE: March 15th 2007

I had the plugs changed and thankfully they all came out fine. I think $230 for the spark plugs and fuel filter change is cheap insurance , considering the plugs are $15 a piece! They also did a multi point inspection and everything was fine. Warranty runs out in 9 days so I wanted to make sure the lariat had a checkup before it ended!
 
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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One way I found of getting around the problem of spark plugs breaking off is buying a PSD!! LOL
 
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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There ya go colin, good advice lol.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Colin, just wait till we need injectors or a pump, those plugs will seem very cheap......
 
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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Yeah nice advice there corner lol well good to hear nothing happened prairie it is cheap insurance if you plan to keep the truck!
 
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