question on torqueshift fluids
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question on torqueshift fluids
i have a 04 f-250 sd with the torqueshift 5 speed tranny,my question is when checking fluid levels does the truck need to be running and in park or netruel
or does it need to be not running to get correct fluid level
reason for question is i checked it when running and it shows low,and when not runnning it shows full,just dont want to overfill if you know what i mean,also is true use micron sp ONLY,i'll have to get it from the dealer because no auto parts stores carries it
the reason i checked it because i notice when i come to full stop and take off i get a little bump,not a clunk or anything,also when i do come to stop and let the brake off for second and rebrake i will get that bump,i was thinking if the tranny was low on fluid this could be the problem.
also i was reading about the driveshaft splines not being greased enough,could this be the problem?
trucks still under fac.warranty should i take it in for that
thanks in advance for any input
04 f-250 SD PSD 6.0/torqueshift 24000 miles,no mods all stock except for a few ext. add-ons
or does it need to be not running to get correct fluid level
reason for question is i checked it when running and it shows low,and when not runnning it shows full,just dont want to overfill if you know what i mean,also is true use micron sp ONLY,i'll have to get it from the dealer because no auto parts stores carries it
the reason i checked it because i notice when i come to full stop and take off i get a little bump,not a clunk or anything,also when i do come to stop and let the brake off for second and rebrake i will get that bump,i was thinking if the tranny was low on fluid this could be the problem.
also i was reading about the driveshaft splines not being greased enough,could this be the problem?
trucks still under fac.warranty should i take it in for that
thanks in advance for any input
04 f-250 SD PSD 6.0/torqueshift 24000 miles,no mods all stock except for a few ext. add-ons
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The transmission should be at operating temperature. The truck engine should be running and the truck should be parked on level ground when checking the transmission fluid level. Use only Mercon SP fluid in a TorqShift tranny.
Hope this helps!
On edit: The 'clunk' you feel is possibly the rear driveshaft splines being in need of grease. Ford makes a special blue teflon grease for the driveshaft splines. I've got a link to an earlier thread with that info: www.ford-trucks.com/forums/411503-superduty-clunk-teflon-grease.html
Hope this helps!
On edit: The 'clunk' you feel is possibly the rear driveshaft splines being in need of grease. Ford makes a special blue teflon grease for the driveshaft splines. I've got a link to an earlier thread with that info: www.ford-trucks.com/forums/411503-superduty-clunk-teflon-grease.html
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Valvoline also has the Mercon SP but it costs the same as the Ford fluid. As for the drive shaft clunk, if you want a long term fix for it take it to a drive line shop and have them put a newer style youlk on it and rebalance it. Ford will lube it but the clunk will come back as there is no way to keep the lube in the splines. The newer trucks have a zerk fitting and a boot to keep this from happening.
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Mercon SP
"If it needs fluid thats the only place that has it."
Not trying to argue, but Mercon SP can be purchased at any Motorcraft distributor not just the dealers. Mike
Not trying to argue, but Mercon SP can be purchased at any Motorcraft distributor not just the dealers. Mike
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Originally Posted by jmcholden
Valvoline also has the Mercon SP but it costs the same as the Ford fluid. As for the drive shaft clunk, if you want a long term fix for it take it to a drive line shop and have them put a newer style youlk on it and rebalance it. Ford will lube it but the clunk will come back as there is no way to keep the lube in the splines. The newer trucks have a zerk fitting and a boot to keep this from happening.
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mercon sp will stay,atf users will go to merc v
mercon sp is not going anywhere,but there will be a few changes
http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_artic....cfm?x=b11,0,w
http://www.lubereport.com/e_article0....cfm?x=b11,0,w
Speaking April 4 in Dearborn, Mich., to the SAE Technical Committee 3 on ATF, Gear Oils and Greases, Ford’s Chintan Ved announced that effective July 1, no new Mercon licenses will be issued. All remaining Mercon licenses will expire on or before June 30, 2007, leaving a clear field thereafter for Mercon V.
Ved, based at Ford’s Automatic Transmission New Product Center in Livonia, Mich., is the company’s lead development engineer for ATF. He noted that although his company has recommended Mercon V for all vehicles for the past seven or eight years, most Ford models on the road continue to be serviced by Mercon. Mercon V, however, is a far better product that more closely resembles the factory-fill ATF which Ford has used for over eight years. It requires the use of a more shear-stable viscosity index improver, and Group II or Group II-plus base oil to meet its viscosity and oxidation targets.
“All transmissions recommending Mercon ATF can now be serviced with Mercon V,” Ved later told Lube Report. “Mercon V is a tighter specification, requiring better anti-oxidation, antiwear and anti-shudder properties from service-fill ATFs. We are doing this because we want to ensure our customers get the better fluid.
“We are in the process of sending official letters to all our licensing program participants, advising them of the change,” he continued. Ford also licenses Mercon SP, for servicing its six-speed automatics, and that will not change. In all, Ford has some 450 products under its three current commercial licenses (Mercon, Mercon V and Mercon SP). Fees to license Ford’s Mercon trademarks ranged from $2,000 to $3,000 per product last year, depending on whether the license holder is an original formulator, a reblender, or a rebrander.
http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_artic....cfm?x=b11,0,w
http://www.lubereport.com/e_article0....cfm?x=b11,0,w
Speaking April 4 in Dearborn, Mich., to the SAE Technical Committee 3 on ATF, Gear Oils and Greases, Ford’s Chintan Ved announced that effective July 1, no new Mercon licenses will be issued. All remaining Mercon licenses will expire on or before June 30, 2007, leaving a clear field thereafter for Mercon V.
Ved, based at Ford’s Automatic Transmission New Product Center in Livonia, Mich., is the company’s lead development engineer for ATF. He noted that although his company has recommended Mercon V for all vehicles for the past seven or eight years, most Ford models on the road continue to be serviced by Mercon. Mercon V, however, is a far better product that more closely resembles the factory-fill ATF which Ford has used for over eight years. It requires the use of a more shear-stable viscosity index improver, and Group II or Group II-plus base oil to meet its viscosity and oxidation targets.
“All transmissions recommending Mercon ATF can now be serviced with Mercon V,” Ved later told Lube Report. “Mercon V is a tighter specification, requiring better anti-oxidation, antiwear and anti-shudder properties from service-fill ATFs. We are doing this because we want to ensure our customers get the better fluid.
“We are in the process of sending official letters to all our licensing program participants, advising them of the change,” he continued. Ford also licenses Mercon SP, for servicing its six-speed automatics, and that will not change. In all, Ford has some 450 products under its three current commercial licenses (Mercon, Mercon V and Mercon SP). Fees to license Ford’s Mercon trademarks ranged from $2,000 to $3,000 per product last year, depending on whether the license holder is an original formulator, a reblender, or a rebrander.
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Originally Posted by 2000Expy
I heard that Mercon SP will be replaced with an all purpose fluid that is backwards compatible with Mercon and Mercon V in the future. Has anyone else heard this?
Stick with Mercon SP if driving a truck with the '03 - '07 Torqueshift tranny!!!
