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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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I was taking a look at my turbo, took the intake hose off and wanted to take a pic of it so somebody could take a look at it and tell me what kind of shape it was in for 130,000 miles. As I took it off I kept the ccv mod in mind. Some people seemed to have some concern with the smoke that they may get with the bypass. I was wondering if I redirected it back to the factory airway before the air filter, allowing the smoke to be consumed with out the dirt and oil getting to my turbo, and letting the filter take it all. i change my air filter with every oil change (3,000 miles) and do not think that it will get too oil soaked. I aslo could clean it when I wanted because it would be right there. Has any one tried this, any forseen problems, ??
I checked my wheel movement and it did not seem to have a problem, seemed to turn good and smooth, and no paly, maybe a 64of an inch or less. I do not like the oil and crud there on my intake before the turbo so i would like to relocate that vent, but keep some vaccume on the vent to allow the fumes to leave and may not deposit as much in the engine. I am some what a novice, i know a little about alot, but no alot about this. I install air traffic contorl systems for the Navy and Marines, and I am a former Marine. Any input would be great. thank you, this site is unbeliveable. I could use a spell check though, ha ha

2001 PSD crew cab, 4x4. no mods yet, but when I have the time and money I plan on starting with guages, thanks
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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I personaly would not route the CCV hose to before the filter.
To create a vacum in the CCV sys I would run the hose to the exhaust, just after the down pipe, like this http://rides.webshots.com/album/57770416FrVGlS
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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I have been playing with a way to filter out the oil from the vapor and then return it pre air cleaner but have not finished it yet https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...&albumid=24742

I did see this on DI the other day http://www.dieselinnovations.com/di....products&cat=8 Third one down. So I know it can be done I am just not satisfied with my design yet.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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I think you are on your way with your design, you only seem to have to raise the price about 200 dollars and you will be able to sell it, ha ha. I believe that your design is simple enough to work, wonder if a fuel tank filter type assembly would work where you could see what is going on and be able to see when it may need to be drained.

I also see the draw back on putting it before the airfilter, bringing in the oil, and crud from the motor. It was just a thought. If you go into the exhaust will that become a + pressure on the vent insted of a - pressure. I really do not know, have you checked it while the engine is running, does it create the vaccume, or does it blow air out. just a thought, I am sure that there are very few if any people on here that know less about diesels than me. I do want to learn though. thanks.

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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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If you angle the fitting so the outlet points downstream of the exhaust flow (to the back of the truck) as the exhaust flows aound the fitting it will create a vacum.

I should also say that this works best with a aftermarket free flowing exhaust, if you have too much backpress from a restricive exhaust it could cause a +pressure in your CCV.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Coming out of the crankcase there is + pressure, when you insert it into the exhaust correctly (as Zephyr did) you can get the effect of the exhaust gasses "sucking" it out. I dont want to vent to atmosphere but I also want clean IC pipes so I will spend a little more time fiddleing before I get the one from DI.

If I had to guess i would say there may be 1 or 2 psi coming out of the CCV just going by the feel on the hand.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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Sound good. I do not have a free flowing exhaust. My truck is all factory. I do take care if it when I get time, I take time no matter what to change the oil. I do want to take time to get rid of this oil mist, and crud from getting to my turbo. I may run it into my air way because I do not have time to do the exhaust mod. If there is any for seen problems please let me know. I know it will dirty my filter faster, but it is changed every 3,000. or sooner. I think that I will be putting on a exhust soon, guages first, someone talked about that getting a base line and then going with the mods after guages, it sounded like a very wise choice. Like I have said in other posts, this site is great. Thanks again.


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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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I built a pvc "filter" based on Alan's design, very smart and helpful guy. Was going to install it using steel wool as the filter element but read a post on here about someone's line with oil in it freezing and oil coming out somwhere around the turbo till he cut the ccv mod line and everything was fine. Living in wisconsin and it getting cold i got a little worried about the line freezing and causing problems so i decided to hold off till summere. If i lived where it didn't freeze i would deffinately be using Alan's design right now.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Well after installing the "Filter" i put a 2 liter soda bottle after it so I could check to see if any Oil was still making it out. There was some collecting in the soda bottle so I am redesigning it in a vertical orientation to allow more time for the vapor to cool and let the oil condensate out before it leaves the filter.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Guzzle has a nice way to filter this mod here: http://guzzle.rbmicro.com/ccv1.html

Check out some of his other mods as well while you are there as they are all very well illustrated and explained!!!!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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I have no problems so far with the Racor filter CCV3550-FRD-02 from www.shopdiesel.com.

Tom
2002 F-350 7.3 Banks 4" w/elbow, Gauges, AIS, Racor CCV
 
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 01:32 AM
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Why cant I run a hose to the rear of the truck and vent into atmosphere?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cdiddy
Why cant I run a hose to the rear of the truck and vent into atmosphere?
You can. I did before I tied it to my exhaust.



 
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Why cant I run a hose to the rear of the truck and vent into atmosphere?
You can, as long as you don't live in cold climates. Condensation forms in the hose, and freezes solid. Trust me, I had it happen on I-94 at 2:00 a.m. in -15 below weather-not fun. Mine is back to stock-for now.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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If you run a high temp hose, why not run it alongside the exhaust pipe as a built-in heat tracer?
 
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