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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Losing power when put in park

Hi everyone, I'm hoping someone can help me perhaps pin point the source of this problem, although it could be a million things.

I've noticed lately that whenever I put my truck into park (while truck is running) I can clearly feel a loss of power that I didn't used to feel, almost to the point where it feels like it wants to die even though it doesn't do that and never has.

Like I said I realize this could be a million things, but maybe someone can help me get a better idea of what it is because it might be something I can fix myself.

This is for a 97 Ford Ranger, 4 cylinder, 2 wheel drive.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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You may have an IAC that is gummy. In park, the ECM tells the Idle Air Control to close up a smidge so the idle doesn't jump up. No load on the engine in park. If the IAC is gummy, when it tries to cut back a little, and doesn't respond, the ECM sez HEY, cut back, I told you , and trims it too much, thus the idle goes too slow, and may wander back and forth as the ECM seeks to stabilize the idle.
Use cat converter safe cleaner inside the IAC (remove and clean) and you may get away with it.
Just a thot.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tomw
You may have an IAC that is gummy. In park, the ECM tells the Idle Air Control to close up a smidge so the idle doesn't jump up. No load on the engine in park. If the IAC is gummy, when it tries to cut back a little, and doesn't respond, the ECM sez HEY, cut back, I told you , and trims it too much, thus the idle goes too slow, and may wander back and forth as the ECM seeks to stabilize the idle.
Use cat converter safe cleaner inside the IAC (remove and clean) and you may get away with it.
Just a thot.
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Tom, thanks for the response. That sounds a lot like what might be the problem. I'm not to familiar with the IAC, can you tell me where I find it? What your suggesting doesn't sound difficult at all and it's something I can do myself, I've just never done it before.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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It's a small silver metallic cylinder located on the side of the throttle body, typically held on with two bolts. Remove, carefully remove the gasket. Spray the inside throughly with throttle body cleaner, let it drain good, and replace.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RangerPilot
It's a small silver metallic cylinder located on the side of the throttle body, typically held on with two bolts. Remove, carefully remove the gasket. Spray the inside throughly with throttle body cleaner, let it drain good, and replace.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Not a problem, did it today myself!

Do tell us if it fixes it, if not we'll chase the problem down!
 
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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IF it's not the IAC, a bad alternator will sometime not charge the battery at idle and the voltage will drop causing the engine to drop down. You would probably see the voltage gauge dip down though.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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JIMw I have an old Sable that had a fried regulator. Didn't know it. As I would take it out of D, going to Park, the engine would stall. EVERY TIME. Somehow, I figured out that it was the alternator, and didn't know why. Voltage surge or drop as the RPMs were being adjusted by the IAC must've driven it whacko.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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I have another question. I read that when cleaning the IAC valve it's also best to replace the gasket. If so where in the world do you find just the gasket for your particular IAC?
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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I didn't replace the gasket when I cleaned mine. If you didn't tear it, I don't see why you would need to replace it.

Getting the IAC off of the 2.3, (and back on) is kind of a pain, but it can be done without removing anything except the air tube.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by john112deere
I didn't replace the gasket when I cleaned mine. If you didn't tear it, I don't see why you would need to replace it.

Getting the IAC off of the 2.3, (and back on) is kind of a pain, but it can be done without removing anything except the air tube.
Thanks. That's what I figured, but I've read in a couple of places today that you need to have another gasket just in case. I suppose it's not the worst idea in the world, I just don't know where I'd find one even if I did need it.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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IAC gasket

I found a gasket for my 97 4.0L at Advance auto parts when I replaced my IAC motor. I would think you would be able to get it at the dealer too. -Ed
 
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 77460f150
I found a gasket for my 97 4.0L at Advance auto parts when I replaced my IAC motor. I would think you would be able to get it at the dealer too. -Ed
Thank You, that does help.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 03:39 AM
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JIMw I have an old Sable that had a fried regulator. Didn't know it. As I would take it out of D, going to Park, the engine would stall. EVERY TIME. Somehow, I figured out that it was the alternator, and didn't know why. Voltage surge or drop as the RPMs were being adjusted by the IAC must've driven it whacko.
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I had to drive my manual trans 87' camaro 15 miles in town with my foot on the gas cause the rebuilt alternator i bought at pep boys that was an hour old wouldn't charge the battery unless the car was above 1500 RPM. I got home, p'od i might add, and took back the alternator and they gave me another one. I put that one on and dorve the car around the block and popped the hood and the alternator was smoking like hell. I shut off the car, and all the sudden the alternator cought on fire, i ran to the garage to grab a wrench to disconnect the battery before it blew up and got the garden hose (this all took place in about 20 seconds) and put it out before anything blew up. I went back to pep boys and told them to stick it, and give me my money back. I bought a rebuild from the dealer and never had any problems with it as long as i owned the car.
The moral of the story, don't buy rebuilt parts from pep boys.
 
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When buying a new or reman electrical replacement, like an alternator, computer, motor, ect, why not have them bench test the item before you leave the store with it, that way you'll both know it's ok!!!!!
 
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