Bad Vibration!
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Bad Vibration!
Was towing boat today, and suddenly got strong vibration, and low frequency rumble sound in the truck. Stopped, and felt all the hubs, and everything was cool to the touch. Took off again, no vibration. Then it started again. Of course, I was over 100 miles from home! Got off freeway, onto 2 lane smooth road. Went relatively slow, and with window down, noise sounded like from the front of the truck. All of a sudden, noise and vibes stopped. Truck sounded quiet and smooth like normal. Discovered that bumps in the road surface could cause vibes to start, or stop. In stop and go traffic, vibes and rumble could be felt strongly, until close to stopped. Then it went away. But vibes didn't always start back up. I drove the 100+ miles home with no problems, other than the vibes starting and stopping, due to road surface, or just whenever. Truck drove like normal, no noticeable extra play in the steering, or any other different driving characteristics.
I did check to make sure the front shafts were spinning free, to verify hubs were not locked. I locked and unlocked both hubs to make sure they felt normal. Transfer case is manual.
Any ideas are appreciated on where to look first.
The only thing I did before I left this morning was change the front tire pressure from 45 psi, to 55 psi. This noise and vibes didn't start till I was almost to where I was going, roughly 110 miles from home.
I did check to make sure the front shafts were spinning free, to verify hubs were not locked. I locked and unlocked both hubs to make sure they felt normal. Transfer case is manual.
Any ideas are appreciated on where to look first.
The only thing I did before I left this morning was change the front tire pressure from 45 psi, to 55 psi. This noise and vibes didn't start till I was almost to where I was going, roughly 110 miles from home.
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Well, I think I see the problem. When I spin the driver's side front tire, it looks like it wants to turn the stub axle with it, and it looks like the stub wants to wobble when it does this. I took the manual hub out, and it appears to spin freely, but it has a slight noise, if I spin it fast enough.
Anyone know the PN for the needle bearing?
Anyone know the PN for the needle bearing?
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OK- I'm thinking here! Scary. The stub shaft does not turn unless the truck is in 4WD, correct? Yes. The needle bearing does not rotate unless the stub is rotating, as it is mounted to the fixed part of the wheel bearing hub, correct? Yes.
So therefore, what is causing the stub to attempt, successfully, to rotate, and cause the vibration, has to be the 4WD locking hub, correct?
Or have I just lost my mind?
So therefore, what is causing the stub to attempt, successfully, to rotate, and cause the vibration, has to be the 4WD locking hub, correct?
Or have I just lost my mind?
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Originally Posted by DetailerDave
OK- I'm thinking here! Scary. The stub shaft does not turn unless the truck is in 4WD, correct? Yes. The needle bearing does not rotate unless the stub is rotating, as it is mounted to the fixed part of the wheel bearing hub, correct? Yes.
So therefore, what is causing the stub to attempt, successfully, to rotate, and cause the vibration, has to be the 4WD locking hub, correct?
Or have I just lost my mind?
So therefore, what is causing the stub to attempt, successfully, to rotate, and cause the vibration, has to be the 4WD locking hub, correct?
Or have I just lost my mind?
I believe your second assumption is incorrect. The bearing is turning with the rotating hub assembly, unless I'm mistaken.
Last edited by Mike Johnston; 12-18-2006 at 11:25 AM.
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All fixed. The needle bearing was desperate for grease! I replaced the bearing. It was easier than cleaning it. Took some scotch-brite to the shaft, blew everything out. Cleaned everything up, packed the bearing, and threw it all back together. 1 1/2 hours or so. Not too bad for an amateur!
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Hi,
The axle (u-joint) in my truck is coming down and hitting on the ball joint. I have had it all part to change the seals and that support bushing seal but did not notice the needle bearing. Would the bad needle bearing cause this? do i have to change the whole hub assembly? I got fed up and booked into the dealer. I just wondered if that $8 bearing is an option to that whole hub assembly?
2001 F250 4x4 diesel
235,000 km
The axle (u-joint) in my truck is coming down and hitting on the ball joint. I have had it all part to change the seals and that support bushing seal but did not notice the needle bearing. Would the bad needle bearing cause this? do i have to change the whole hub assembly? I got fed up and booked into the dealer. I just wondered if that $8 bearing is an option to that whole hub assembly?
2001 F250 4x4 diesel
235,000 km