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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Since you live near a big town call the truck dealerships. Kenworth, IH, Peterbuilt, Mack , Volvo. Gear work in in heavy trucks is an everyday thing. They will be able to get you in the right direction.

Don't call them if you can get time to go and see them. If you call you may get a service writer that may tell that "we don't work on light duty trucks".
Go in and ask for the service manager or the shop forman and talk to them.


I will check tom. and see if any of my old dealership contacts know anybody out there. They may. I used to see people from dealerships all over the country when I went to certification classes for new products also the MId-America Truck Show is in the city close to my hometown. I have alot of connections but I need to see if they are still around or they left the dealership world like I did so I could have a family life.

I willsee what I can come with.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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Yeah, I saw that chart too. Again, I've never heard of that ratio before, but with 51 teeth on the ring and 11 teeth on the pinion that is what you'd get, so I suppose it is for real...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Jack up one wheel have someone crawl under the truck and count how many driveshaft turns you get... turn the wheel 20 rev...and you will get a number like 46.3 or 41.0 move the decimile point one to the left...and you will have it
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by roamer37
Jack up one wheel have someone crawl under the truck and count how many driveshaft turns you get... turn the wheel 20 rev...and you will get a number like 46.3 or 41.0 move the decimile point one to the left...and you will have it
Thanks for the hint...Will try on off day, soon I hope. Going down to Tucson to pick up a new-to-me 1986 F-250 Flatbed 6.96l, C-6, with O/D. If the gear ratio works out better for highway, will probably forego the gear change in the '85, and use exclusively for local hauling. Would still consider when funds and another truck would make downtime feasible.

I really appreciate everyone's input.

Now tell the truth, isn't this FUN!!
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by roamer37
Jack up one wheel have someone crawl under the truck and count how many driveshaft turns you get... turn the wheel 20 rev...and you will get a number like 46.3 or 41.0 move the decimile point one to the left...and you will have it
Or turn it two revs and get 4.6 (~4 1/2), or 4.1 (~4) or 3.55 (~3 1/2) revs of the driveshaft....

I wouldn't want to try to count 40 or 50 revs of the driveshaft - too easy to loose track.

With an "assistant" to turn the jacked-up wheel it should be pretty easy. Use chalk to mark the wheel (so you know when you've turned it exactly two revs) and the driveshaft (to help keep a good count on the revs).
 

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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Two turns works just as well as long as the ratio is not close to each other sometimes things get hard to tell 4.10 turns or 4.11 turns
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by roamer37
Two turns works just as well as long as the ratio is not close to each other sometimes things get hard to tell 4.10 turns or 4.11 turns
True, but 4.11 or 4.10 are close enough to not make any difference.

In fact, I'm not even sure both ratios really exist. Every 4.10 gearset I've seen has a 10 tooth pinon and a 41 tooth ring gear. No other combination will work - at least not in gears the size that will fit in a differential. So how do you get a 4.11 ratio?

You also hear reference to both 3.55s and 3.56s, but with an 11 tooth pinon and a 39 tooth ring gear the actual ratio is 39 / 11 = 3.54545454...... which rounds up to 3.55. So how would you actually get a 3.56 ratio?

Even if you DOUBLE the numbers of teeth and add or subtract one you don't get 4.11 or 3.56

82 / 19 = 4.315 and 83 / 20 = 4.15, both are more than .01 higher than 4.10

Same for the 3.55s

78 / 21 = 3.714 and 79 / 22 = 3.591

So can anyone explain to me how they come up with these odd numbers? Just one of those things I've always wondered about.....
 
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