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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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fun times.. brakes!!!!

ok i changed my rotors and calipers and bled the brakes. because i thought the pass one was sticking, when i stepped on the brake it would make that tire skid on the front passanger.. so i changed all that and it still skidds when i apply the brakes on the front passanger... i changed ROTORS / CALIPERS / PADS and bled the SYSTEM!! im wondering what the HECK is causeing this.. also my pedal looses pressure if i step on the brakes and hold my foot on them, its real slow though.. so i pump them.. could this all be caused by a bad mastercylinder? im getting tired of throwing money at the front brakes.. somone please help.....
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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If your losing brake fluid, could be the M/C....look for any wet spots. Have you checked the back brakes?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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fluid

no fluid is not missing.. and no wet spots.. back brakes look good.. i dont know what the problem is... why would the pass front go into a skidd on the ice before the others?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:47 AM
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My guess is that your M/C safety valve has moved, restricting the flow to your back brakes, but when this usually happens, the brake warning light comes on?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:58 AM
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warning light

nope its on before i start it but after i start it goes out.


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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 01:15 AM
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How are the wheel bearings on the front......... The pedal going slowly to the floor under heavy constant pedal application is normal......... If you pump it 2 times and it is high then the M/C is fine. How old are the front hoses, they can internally cause a flap that will either restrict pressure too the caliper or from it.. Adjust up the rear brakes ...... manually or by backing up and applying the brakes hard, then drive forward and stop.......do this about 10 times. Using your park brake all the time does it for you......
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 01:35 AM
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well when im driving down the road i press on them, and they arent very effective tell the pedal gets down a ways, then the pass front tire locks up and skids tell i back off them.. now this is in ice country of course.. but it grabs pretty good, if i pump them at a stop light the pedal comes back up but as i resting my foot on the pedal at the light it sinks back to the floor.. i am not loosing any fluid.. and the onyl brake that locks up is the pass front, and it did this same thing BEFORE i changed to new calipers.. so i guess it wasent the calipers that caused it.. its driving me nutz.

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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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ya that sounds like a bitch of a problem dude, hope you get that figured out.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 04:36 AM
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Or maybe I'm just full of it....

Someone will post the correct terminology, but when those little cylinder shaped doodads for the rear anti-locks get old and bad, and you have to push too hard to stop, of course the front brakes lock up because they're doing all the work and they're not anti-lock. Replace those grimy little buggers in the back! That worked for me anyway.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 05:02 AM
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i think

after i rediscovered the search feature of this website.. for some reason i couldnt find it the other day.. i am narrowing my problems down to what i think is a bad brake line on the passanger front wheel.. i will replace it tomarrow and re bleed the lines...



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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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If the pedal sinks to the floor under constant pressure with no fluid loss, the master cylinder is no good. It is bypassing between the chambers. If you hold it long enough, will the warning light come on? Are the caliper slides clean, and not worn? You should look at the other side also, the fluid will flow to the side of least resistance. A caliper that locks early may be working OK. It may be the other side that is the problem. Rears out of adjustment will also cause this. You may have to manually adjust them. Hope this helps...Don
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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definatly replace the master cylinder and since the pass side is locking up lets focus on the driver side; have someone mash the brake while you open the bleeder screw and watch the flow of fluid, it should really gush out ! wear some safty glasses! if it just trickels the line is probably restricted -assuming it was properly bled the first time. i would say that age alone merits the replacement of all three hoses- yes there is one in the back that will affect both rear brakes!
 
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben-jamin
definatly replace the master cylinder and since the pass side is locking up lets focus on the driver side; have someone mash the brake while you open the bleeder screw and watch the flow of fluid, it should really gush out ! wear some safty glasses! if it just trickels the line is probably restricted -assuming it was properly bled the first time. i would say that age alone merits the replacement of all three hoses- yes there is one in the back that will affect both rear brakes!
That is correct. A few months ago when I replaced my drivers side caliper and went to bleed the lines, fluid shot all over and soaked my fender well! You should at least have some kind of flow as I did, if not then check the lines.

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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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well i replaced the passanger side line!! it dint do anything it still locks up the pass side.. so i will go back outside and replace the DRIVERS LINE.. i think you have a very valid point that the fluid with least resistance would lock that caliper up.. maybe the drivers line has restriction.. it did seem to let out less fluid (at least less volume at a time, i figured it was cause i didn tturn the bleeder out as much as the other) when i was bleeding that side..

going outside not to change other line.. Bee back in few


Ray

its 5 degrees out right now... so i will work fast!!! hahaha
 
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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changed lines

changed both lines and bleed system again!!! so now 2 new calipers and 2 hoses... still same thing as when i started.. pass side caliper stops wheel and it skids before the drivers....



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