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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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changing stock wheels

hi all I have a 2000 f 150 2 wheel drive. i would like to put some of the newer stock wheels on this truck. what years could i go up to and still work. will any of the 17 inch wheels work on this truck? thanks Tommy
 
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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F150's used a 5-lug 135mm bolt pattern through 2003 (also the 2004 Heritage), Expeditions used this pattern though 2002. Ford switched to 6-lug thereafter.

To complicate things a bit, Ford switched from 12mm lugstuds to 14mm lugstuds in mid-model year 2000.

So first, since you own the split year 2000, you'll need to determine whether you have 12mm or 14mm lugstuds/lugnuts. Simply place a 3/4" (or 19mm) socket on one of your lugnuts, if it fits you have 12mm lugs. If not, you have 14mm lugs.

ALL factory wheel styles are what is know as 'hub-centric', that is they are centered/supported by the center hub hole and NOT the lug holes, which is why the factory lugnuts have a flat washer instead of a tapered one. So the negligible difference in bolt hole diameter is not a concern (though some would argue that...but they would be wrong). The issue is really with the center caps, some styles are fixed-size, and will fit ONLY 14mm from the later years.

With that information, if you have EITHER 12mm or 14mm, the following 17" alloy will fit, as the center cap style has clips that are adjustable to either size:



The following 17" chromeclad steel wheel will also fit either 12mm or 14mm lugs, as the center cap clips are adjustable (I have a set of these from a 14mm 2002 on my 12mm 2000):



Hope that helps get you started, there are two more factory 17" styles, one with a fixed-size cap design, and one (used on FX4) without a center cap that requires acorn style lugnuts. [If you determine your vehicle has 14mm lugs, then either of these would also work].

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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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thanks that is just the info I wanted. you made it easy to understand and the pictures helped to. Thanks again and have a merry chirstmas
 
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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wgotthardt,

I installed a set of Lincoln Navigator wheels on my 1999 Ford F150 4x4 tonight. I am concerned about the difference in the new Lincoln wheel holes and F150 studs. After reading your above post I now realize I have 12mm studs and the navigator wheel was designed for 14mm studs. I also can't use the Navigator center caps because they don't fit on the F-150 lug nuts.

Should, or rather, can I intall a set of 14mm studs? Will the 14mm studs fit through the rotors or will I have to enlarge the rotors holes? Is it a lot of work to change the studs? Is it really safe to use the 12mm studs? There is a lot of play between the studs and wheel holes. I understand that once the wheels are torqued down the hub keeps the wheel centered. Although, it does seem that the play could allow the wheel to spin/slip around the studs.

If the answer is that the 12mm studs are perfectly safe and won't cause and damage then what lug nuts can I get that will work with the Lincoln center caps?
 

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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by beekermartin
I installed a set of Lincoln Navigator wheels on my 1999 Ford F150 4x4 tonight. I am concerned about the difference in the new Lincoln wheel holes and F150 studs.
OK...I sell F150/Expy wheels on ebay, and this (the 12mm/14mm issue) is the most common concern & area of misinformation. If you were to check the play of your previous wheels, you'd see it is similar. On a couple styles, including the 17" alloy shown in the first photo, there is actually NO difference in the bolt hole diameter between wheels manufactured for 12mm or 14mm vehicles. Only one 12mm style, the 16" five-pocket polished alloy, has bolt holes that will NOT fit over the 14mm studs. The largest 14mm holes are on the 17" chromeclad steel wheel in the lower photo (not to mention, at 40lbs each, they are almost twice as heavy as any alloy style), and as I said, I've run those on my 12mm 2000 for the past 4 years or so.

There should be no spinning/slipping on a wheel properly torqued, so in my opinion, that's a moot point. Since in your theory they would spin forward upon braking the vehicle, simply turn each wheel forward until the bolthole edge touches the lugstud before torquing, if it will make you sleep better.

Your only issue is with the caps (you don't want Lincoln logos anyways???), as they are fixed-size 14mm. I'm pretty sure what wheels you probably have, you simply need to get a 12mm set of caps in a similar style (read ebay), which is no problem. Unfortunately there is no solution simply by changing the lugnuts themselves. Some guys will try to bend in the inner metal part of the clip a bit, but it doesnt hold so well and will eventually fly off at freeway speed, don't recommend it.

If this is your new wheel style (link below) let me know and I will point you to the correct 12mm caps on ebay (I will not be the seller):

http://www.innerauto.com/includes/images/Inner_Auto/Lincoln_Parts/Lincoln_Parts/Linc_Navi_Wheel.jpg



IMO (for what it's worth)
 

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by trmann
thanks that is just the info I wanted. you made it easy to understand and the pictures helped to. Thanks again and have a merry chirstmas
Great, I too have used this forum to diagnose/repair pretty much everything that has gone wrong with my truck over the years, form slip yoke 'clunks' to ABS system repair...glad I could help.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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Thanks a lot wgotthardt! That link is the exact wheels I just got. I actually bought them on ebay. You gotta love ebay!

I also posted these questions in another thread I started. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...s-morning.html

I was reading about someone making a small spacer/washer to fill the "gap" around the smaller stud. I know it isn't really necessary but it may help me sleep!

BTW, my old wheels are the last picture you posted. I noticed that the holes in the Lincoln wheels were larger than the stock wheels when they were side by side. I will measure them tomorrow but I am positive that the Ford wheels are much smaller. I can't believe how much heavier the stock Ford wheels are compared to the Navigators!

I would appreciate the link for center caps that will work. I guess I'll have to sell these Lincoln center caps now.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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I have the wheels in the first picture. I wish I had the 2003 FX4 spoked wheels myself.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Is it true that in the US you guys can't get an F-150 XTR?
I like the wheels on them.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Racerguy
Is it true that in the US you guys can't get an F-150 XTR?
I like the wheels on them.
http://www.carpages.ca/Sections/Buy/...os/38050.4.jpg
So do I! What does the XTR package give you? I've never heard of it before...
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by beekermartin
I would appreciate the link for center caps that will work. I guess I'll have to sell these Lincoln center caps now.
ebay item# 290062182540

(Just place number in ebay 'Search' box)

These factory OEM chrome caps are identical in style/size to the Lincoln caps (sans logo), but fit 12mm lugnuts only, exactly what you need. I am not the seller. Good luck.

[Note: Be careful if for some reason you do not purchase these and begin to search elsewhere on ebay, there are similar caps that are a slightly larger diameter for a different wheel style, and others that only fit 14mm. Stay completely away from the aftermarket crap].

Also, if/when you sell your Lincoln caps, make sure you note for '14mm ONLY'.
 

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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wgotthardt, are you sure those caps will work? I want to make sure before I start bidding on them. I now have two sets of center caps that don't fit. I don't want a third set!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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What do your first caps look like? What wheel style did you have previously?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wgotthardt
What do your first caps look like? What wheel style did you have previously?
I have the second ones that you posted a picture of.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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OK, then yeah your original caps (w/ indented logo, dog dish style) won't fit.

I assure you the ebay caps I have listed will fit...100%

(They are exactly the same cap as came with the Lincoln rims, only no logo and 12mm).
Good luck.
 
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