Info on flathead inline sixes
Also, I understand the only other flathead I6 Ford ever made was in 1908. Anybody know the basic stats on that engine?
I have no photos at this time, but when the weather clears I could probably come up with a few. Here's the little I know about manifolds. When I bought my truck it has a carb from a 215 or 223 ohv engine. I was able to find a carb for a 254 but discovered the studs on the manifold were 0.25" too close, so I had to do a little machining on the carb to make it fit. My manifold is definitely not from a 215 or 223. From this I surmise I have a manifold set from a 226. The engine port layout must be identical between a 226 and a 254, but the carb end has different bolt centers between them. There are numerous parts that are the same for the 226 and 254.
Hope this helps.
Johann
I am not running a flathead six, but dream of it. I would prefer a 254 as my research indicates that came with a syncromesh tranny, though only in heavy trucks like F5, F6. Besides, the 254 has more power. I did a lot of research. Mayby this will be of interest to you:
I don't think the 254 was used in passenger cars. Yesterday I was at the Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village bookstore and browsed a '49, 50, 51 passenger car shop manual. It had a nice section on the 226 I6 (appears to be detailed info on rebuilding the engine), but I saw no mention of the 254.
Interesting that my research indicates (and this would need to be verified) that the H series, which was late 40s thru 51 and had both 226 and 254 (I believe same block) had beefier bearings. My notes show (approximate) the G motor (1941 thru late 40s) having 2.5" main journals and 2.25 rod journals, whereas the H motor is 2.87 main and 2.30 rod. I suspect if this is true it was to accomodate the larger 254 and heavy duty truck use.
The passenger car manual showed three manfold gaskets, front, middle, and rear. the exhaust has six separate ports, but the intake only four ports with the 1-2 and 5-6 siameezed.
I found some info, photos, and diagrams for all Ford inline sixes including the flatheads on a website: http://www.geocities.com/edwins63/I6ID
I'm still interested in any photos as those on the website are not that good.
Thanks, Paul
(Sorry about the heat shield and battery tray blocking some of the view
)Here is the manifold assembly removed showing the surfaces that attach to the block:
http://home.rconnect.com/~51fordf2/images/manifold.jpg
You can see that there are six exhaust ports but only four intake ports. I also have some other engine photos [link:home.rconnect.com/~51fordf2|on my site.]
No, I didn't take the manifold off; it's an extra. If someone wants it, contact me.
The truck shop manual (available as a reprint) shows the same gasket set (Part # 1GA-9433) for both the H and M engines. Like the car (which used the H) it's three pieces: front, center, and rear. However, I think the manifolds are a little different and may not interchange. The shop manual implies the carbs are the same but it may really mean that the carbs are the same design but not interchangeable.
Tony
F2H1SP24002
Great website. Love your FAQs for owners of similar vehicles. ROTFL.
Love the flathead's simplicity. Also gear driven camshaft and lots of low end torque. Max torque at 1200 rpm.
Paul
My truck is a 49 F1 but I don't believe the engine is original There is a plate on my engine that identifies the engine as "Ford Industrial". It is on the front left, just under the head. The other thing that is different is that the cam gear housing and cover is extended on the right well past the cam gear and fuel pump. On the front and to the right of the cam gear cover (the extended part) there is a hole that looks like a place to mount a hydraulic pump that would drive off of the cam gear. What ever was there is long gone and the hole is now covered with a home made plate. Mysterious engines.
BTW, I saw a book last night that has a nice full page photograph of the flathead I6, presumably the 226. If anyone is interested, the book is "Classic Ford-F-Series Pickup Trucks 1948-1956," by Don Bunn ($24). Even without the engine photo, it is a nice book and has some id codes in the back that may help tell who has what engine.
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The H series has the side mount distributor, wheras the G series has the 'crab type' distributor in the front of the engine. The 254 has a 3.5 inch bore vs 3.3 for the 226. The 254 was used in F-6 and F-600s from 1950-1954, and was derived from an engine used in the Ford transit bus in the 40s. 254s are the hot ticket for hopping up your Ford flattie 6. Some speed parts are available for the engine, the most common are 2 carb manifolds. No headers were made, but the exh is relatively easy to split, I have some jpg photos if anyone is interested. I have been in contact with a few other guys who have hopped up their 226s also.
Nick
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
I wonder what would happen if you split the exhaust and put an intake setup like the EFI 300 I6 has and then fuel inject the flathead and add electronic ignition. Maybe I am off in space, but I really think modern tech could make a flathead engine that would work in today's trucks. Just think, a SuperDuty style truck with a 300 cid flathead. Perhaps a modest supercharger too!
of 6.8 would be just right for a turbo or supercharger. i have an electronic ignition system planned also. if i leave it as a natural i need to figure how much to mill off the head. any thoughts?
tcw
jimlehmann@altavista.com
Pertronix and Crane have electronic ignitions that are adaptable to the 226/254. There is a fellow on the Inliners B-board who is working on F-I for a Mopar flathead six, should be adaptable to the Ford. Also, there is a website by a guy who is doing a lo-buck diy turbo on Studebaker Flathead 6. I have the link somewhere, I will post it when I can find it. Also, cams can be reground for these engines, for more mid-hi end powere, but in a truck, especially with the awesome sounding 4 speed crashbox, who needs rpm??
Nick
>photograph of the flathead I6, presumably the 226. If
>anyone is interested, the book is "Classic Ford-F-Series
>Pickup Trucks 1948-1956," by Don Bunn ($24
Correction, the engine photo is only half page.



