Towing question
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Towing question
I want to haul a 12000 lb piece of equipment.
And I cannot seem to understand how you can do this without a CDL and a vehicle with a GCVW greater than 26000 lbs.
Correct me if I'm wrong here.
The truck weight + the loaded trailer weight must be 26000 lbs or below, or you need a CDL.
So if say the truck is 9100 lbs, and the load is 12000 lbs,
9100 + 12000 = 21,100, leaving only 4900 lbs available
for the weight, empty weight, of the trailer.
And I'm guessing a 20 - 24 foot trailer is a bit more than 4900 lbs.
So this leads me to think that it cannot be done with an F350,
or maybe even a F450 or F550.
Is this correct, or did I scew something up here.
Thanks.
And I cannot seem to understand how you can do this without a CDL and a vehicle with a GCVW greater than 26000 lbs.
Correct me if I'm wrong here.
The truck weight + the loaded trailer weight must be 26000 lbs or below, or you need a CDL.
So if say the truck is 9100 lbs, and the load is 12000 lbs,
9100 + 12000 = 21,100, leaving only 4900 lbs available
for the weight, empty weight, of the trailer.
And I'm guessing a 20 - 24 foot trailer is a bit more than 4900 lbs.
So this leads me to think that it cannot be done with an F350,
or maybe even a F450 or F550.
Is this correct, or did I scew something up here.
Thanks.
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From: Lincoln, NE
That'd be a heavy trailer. Guess it depends on what kind of trailer you're looking at. A closed box is going to be more than a flatbed. I have a 8x20 box and its under 4K for empty weight.
Your math is right though. If you have the trailer, put it on and go weigh yourself.
Your math is right though. If you have the trailer, put it on and go weigh yourself.
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From: Cave Springs, AR
Check my gallery, you'll see my buddy's 10,000lb monster truck on a 2800lb trailer. (the truck is only sagging about 2" in the pic, my pintle was up as far as it could go) The trailer can handle 16,000lbs GVW, so that could easily handle your 12,000lb load.
So yeah, I think you should be fine.
-Jay
So yeah, I think you should be fine.
-Jay
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You're math is correct and you don't need a CDL. The F350 dually, I believe, has a max combined vehicle gross weight of 23500. I haul 12,000 lbs. with my F250 with no concerns. My trailer is a flatbed gooseneck and weights 4500 lbs. I had a problem with my former Dodge dually 350 cummins hauling my skid steer since it had a combined weight of 15800 lbs. (trailer and equipment). I was a little over the Manufacture's rating for the truck; truck was under a strain. The F250 will pull the weight no problem even though I'm right at the 23000 lb. GCWR of the vehicle. Two things to think about; one, are you doing this for personal or for a business (state law may require a CDL or like license in the state); two, if it is for business make sure you're carrying the correct insurance or you may get fined. My state also has a requirement for vehicle and trailer length measured from the center front hub to center of the most rear axle of the trailer. If you exceed certain lengths they require state CDL.
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Oh!
I guess I made my error in the trailer weight. I thought a 20, 22, or 24 foot trailer would weigh around 8000 lbs. (Way Off!!)
I only have the piece of equipment at the moment, and I'm working on getting a truck and trailer, so I can haul the thing myself.
I want a goose neck, flat bed trailer. Everyone tells me the gooseneck, pulls better, works better, etc.
And I was dreaming of an F350, hoping that would do the job. (single rear wheel)
I was freaking out trying to figure out all the GV-this's and that's.
But I'm better now.
Thanks.
I guess I made my error in the trailer weight. I thought a 20, 22, or 24 foot trailer would weigh around 8000 lbs. (Way Off!!)
I only have the piece of equipment at the moment, and I'm working on getting a truck and trailer, so I can haul the thing myself.
I want a goose neck, flat bed trailer. Everyone tells me the gooseneck, pulls better, works better, etc.
And I was dreaming of an F350, hoping that would do the job. (single rear wheel)
I was freaking out trying to figure out all the GV-this's and that's.
But I'm better now.
Thanks.
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Two things to think about; one, are you doing this for personal or for a business (state law may require a CDL or like license in the state); two, if it is for business make sure you're carrying the correct insurance or you may get fined. My state also has a requirement for vehicle and trailer length measured from the center front hub to center of the most rear axle of the trailer. If you exceed certain lengths they require state CDL.
I was concerned with first getting a truck that was legal, and had a little power to spare for hills, passing, etc.
But I guess to drive through multiple states, a CDL is probably a good idea. I don't guess the good ole boys in state-whatever are going to give you any slack because your home state doesn't require a CDL?
I live in the midwest, and everytime I see something for sale at a decent price, it's in Houston or Abilene. And I think, dang-wish I had a trailer.
Alright, nothings easy and it's alway raining.
Thanks.
I was concerned with first getting a truck that was legal, and had a little power to spare for hills, passing, etc.
But I guess to drive through multiple states, a CDL is probably a good idea. I don't guess the good ole boys in state-whatever are going to give you any slack because your home state doesn't require a CDL?
I live in the midwest, and everytime I see something for sale at a decent price, it's in Houston or Abilene. And I think, dang-wish I had a trailer.
Alright, nothings easy and it's alway raining.
Thanks.
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From: Tucson, AZ
I haul that kind of weight all the time with my 250 with no problem. Some states, including mine, require that over 18,000lbs you must have a medical card, but not a CDL until you get to 26,000lbs.
