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I worked at various dealerships including a few Fords in sales, service, and parts, not having all the parts, unless Ford says they are unavailable, in one month is lousy unexcusable service.
What I think the real story is.
Noone at the body shop wants to work on the vehicle because it is time consuming to fix it right. They will only get say .3 to replace a panel from the insurance company, but, on a stripped vehicle it takes much longer once you figure out the 1/2 a dozen pieces you need to attach it, the sound proofing, how it actually attaches etc.
It probably takes at least ah hour to write a good estimate for a stripped interior, noone will get paid to do it so it gets delayed while it gets dumped on a parts person that 1) does not want to do it 2) has no idea of what is needed.
The body shop might only get 12 hours worth of labor to reattach everything, but, it might take 30-40 hours to figure it all out. Then they have to get and argue over supplements etc.
I would say the warranty is void if it was stolen and stripped and as such the vehicle is totaled and you should start on another one at ANOTHER dealership.
If this theft is reported to Carfax (and it most likely will be since your insurance is paying for the repairs and the cops/state cops just might inform carfax) you have a *branded* vehicle. The repair facility may do an excellent job and there may never be a future problem with this vehicle due to this theft and the repairs, but still, you will forever have a *branded* vehicle. Your truck, side-by-side on a used car lot (or at trade in and yes, it's so easy to check carfax and many will when you try to trade) with a carbon copy next to it will be worth less in the eyes of any buyer aware of this history. Buyers are pretty smart too; they know how to ask for or run Carfax. Because of this, you need to have a real nice chat with the insurance adjuster concerning the subject of your being compensated for what is known as diminished value. Diminished value is the difference I noted above, except you guys get to somehow determine a reasonable amount for settlement. Or, maybe at this point in time try to bail on this truck. Time to dig into the fine print on your insurance policy and maybe have a chit-chat with your insurance agent on this subject.
*Don't cry about your not getting a rental, do grit your teeth over the delay on not getting parts faster and yes, it does suck (how come I can go to Ford and buy a part that might not be on the self and they can locate it and give me a real good received date and your Ford dealer can't......), do make the payment on time and yes, it's ok to be frustrated while cutting the check, but do not overlook diminished value (sounds like you have a late model truck thus reason to be concerned). That has potential to financially bit you in the **** unless you trade your vehicles when the value is pretty low (age or miles or both).
*I hope I don't put a knot in your stomach, but you do need to be aware of this and your insurance company would probably rather you don't bring it up. Saves 'em money at your expense.
Last edited by CowboyBilly9Mile; Nov 30, 2006 at 01:07 AM.
If this theft is reported to Carfax (and it most likely will be since your insurance is paying for the repairs and the cops/state cops just might inform carfax) you have a *branded* vehicle. The repair facility may do an excellent job and there may never be a future problem with this vehicle due to this theft and the repairs, but still, you will forever have a *branded* vehicle. Your truck, side-by-side on a used car lot (or at trade in and yes, it's so easy to check carfax and many will when you try to trade) with a carbon copy next to it will be worth less in the eyes of any buyer aware of this history. Buyers are pretty smart too; they know how to ask for or run Carfax. Because of this, you need to have a real nice chat with the insurance adjuster concerning the subject of your being compensated for what is known as diminished value. Diminished value is the difference I noted above, except you guys get to somehow determine a reasonable amount for settlement. Or, maybe at this point in time try to bail on this truck. Time to dig into the fine print on your insurance policy and maybe have a chit-chat with your insurance agent on this subject.
*Don't cry about your not getting a rental, do grit your teeth over the delay on not getting parts faster and yes, it does suck (how come I can go to Ford and buy a part that might not be on the self and they can locate it and give me a real good received date and your Ford dealer can't......), do make the payment on time and yes, it's ok to be frustrated while cutting the check, but do not overlook diminished value (sounds like you have a late model truck thus reason to be concerned). That has potential to financially bit you in the **** unless you trade your vehicles when the value is pretty low (age or miles or both).
*I hope I don't put a knot in your stomach, but you do need to be aware of this and your insurance company would probably rather you don't bring it up. Saves 'em money at your expense.
For the cost of replacing an entire interior (which will be stupefyingly expensive), it might be cheaper for the insurance company to just total and and call it good. (salvage value is pretty high, after all).
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#1 When I bought this vehicle i immediatley notified him and gave him all the information. As a consumer, I told him I want "Full Coverage"! In Consumer language that mean give me the best policy for my investment. He did not inform me of any choices or additional "Options" available to me.
I'm a Sales manager in a different industry, but agent is a fancy title for Salesman. When a consumer asks me about a product I steer them at the best product I offer, briefly going over features, benefits & price. Then I show them the next two available products in that category and leave the decision in the consumers hands. I feel certain that the consumer is happy with the decision to buy, because the consumer made the choice.
However, in this situation, the "Agent" didn't tell me the policy he wrote was for "Like New" not "OEM" replacement. This truck is brand new! Why would I want used replacement parts? The agent made that choice, not me! Let him figure out how to pay the difference.
It's also been a month and a half with nothing to drive. I have to rely on family to drive me to work and pick me up. Why's that you ask? Because the policy my agent sold me, he left out the fact that in the event of theft, you do not get a rental car. I've since added that to my policy, but still it only covers a rental in the event of collision, not theft! Oh, this isn't your company, but its another Nation-Wide company if you can read between the lines.
I've done some research and I do believe there are some legal formalities here like......Bad Faith......Dimeneshed Value!
I had a similar situation with another "Agent" for a good hands company that misinformed me about why I didn't want UM added to my policy. He claimed it was a waste of money, which after being rear ended by a drunk driver and causing considerable damge besides having my neck grafted from C3-C7 and in need of having the same procedure done to my lower back, there wasn't enough coverage to do surgery. My car was a 97 Steeda Cobra which that company wouldn't total. It was worth a pot to **** in after being repaired. I've learned that having a lawyer read your policy now is a requirement if you don't want to go down the road of poor coverage. Which is sad. I build relationships with my customers because I believe in return sales. Obviously, Agents could care less. My product is a luxury, his is a neccesity, that's the difference.
If I could find a trustworthy agent out there that could take care of my needs, I would throw him all my business! But, as for now, I'm very stand-off-ish with insurance agents.
Have you looked at the vehicle to see if any work has been done to it?
If no work has been started I'd be looking at different body shops to see who can get you in now, and done to your satisfaction.
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Last edited by CowboyBilly9Mile; Nov 30, 2006 at 09:45 PM.
It did take untill Mid October of last year to complete my truck. Since then the only problem I have had was with my spring clock? Dealer fixed it for me under warranty. The dealer I might add is first class and has treated me with much respect. I will not hesitate iin the future about buying another Ford product from them.
I have lifted my truck with a 6" lift and 38"X20"X15 tires and rims, put a top of the line security system on and a navagation system (Pioneer Avicz1) custom door pods with JBL 6.5" components. The best part is a device that is also installed (Hidden) that does three important things. If my alarm is triggered it notifies my cell phone via text, If the vehicle enters or leaves an area I set up it notifies me, and if it goes over a set speed limit I've set up it notifies me. At any time I can go online and see the status of my truck anywhere in the United States, Mexico or Canada. No activation fees, no monthly charges and Peace of Mind in the event someone ever tries to steal it again. Police really make no attempt to recover because car theft is a non violent crime. Now, I know when where it happens and can go after it and the thieves myself, making the situation a violent crime. I can even shut down the fuel pump while their making an attempt to get away while pursueing them. For the $699.00 this piece costs, it's worth every penny knowing they won't get away this time. GM Dealers can't do this with Onstar without proving to Onstar with a police report and pulling alot of red tape. this piece takes less than 5 minutes to install, has a built in battery backup and is foolproof.
So for all that responded......Thank you! If ever I can offer advice to stolen car issues, I'm here for you!








