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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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Here are the cam specs and Dyno Simulation of my new 434. This motor is not optimised for either racing or for pulling, but for High Performance street use.

 
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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WOW! That looks great 375 lb-ft at 1500 RPM will certainly motivate it down the street.

Let us know how the dyno numbers compare when finished.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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That simulation was done with open exhuast. It should be close to the true Dyno numbers. With mufflers it will be a little less.

I have a 2000 RPM stall converter in my truck. It should smoke my 50s on dry pavement.

I had another cam simulated with 117 LSA, but I couldn't get it built at a reasonable price. That flattened the torque curve more, by reducing the overlap.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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The other cam might have moved the DCR into the detonation range also.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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The other cam might have moved the DCR into the detonation range also.
No, it had almost the same intake lobe, and exhaust lobe. The overlap was less due to the wider LSA but the IVC was at the same angle. I couldn't get it made with a standard core, since they have rough lobes at 110 centers and 110 LSA. When I spread the lobes, and the centers, there was not enough hardened material left to insure a hardened lobe surface after grinding. I could have had it made with a round Billet core, but the cost was too high and the processing time was longer. It turns out that the cam with the narrower LSA only gives up a few ft-lbs torque at 2000 RPM. It wasn't enough to justify the extra cost. The additional overlap will mean it will have the nice sound my old cam had.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Just for comparison. a 408 with a 255DEH cam and 9.0:1 CR will have 413 ft-lbs torque at 1500 RPM. It flattens out just under 450 ft-lbs until 3500 RPM, then drops. This motor will exceed 450 Ft-lbs between 2000 and 2500 RPM and continues to pull to 5000 RPM, where the peak torque is 558 ft-lbs.

This is not meant to be a stump pulling motor, but if you were pulling a hill at highway speed, and downshifted the torque will increase by up to 100 ft-lbs. The other motor will just slow down after a downshift, unless the gear multiplier allows it to continue to pull in that gear.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 04:48 AM
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Sounds good to me.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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Dan, just wondering what news you may have with the progress of the 434. I am anxiously waiting to see what the dyno results are from TMI, where he is as far as the build goes. Just being curious...
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 05:46 AM
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The motor is almost done, cam installed, Heads installed. It was going to the Simtest yesterday. Tim will dyno it with a carb in the next couple of days. I will be leaving on the 4th of Dec and be there on the 7th and 8th. We will do the EFI dyno runs on those days.

The temperature has been in the 70s around here, I am going to freeze in Minnesota next week.
 
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Cam specs & sym

Can i get a copy of this info in larger format...i am struggling to read it. My eyes are too bad!

Originally Posted by danlee
Here are the cam specs and Dyno Simulation of my new 434. This motor is not optimised for either racing or for pulling, but for High Performance street use.

 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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Better pack warm Dan, it was 7 degree this morn. Looks like it will be on the dyno Saturday.
 
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lol, and Dan, no he didn't forget a zero. But forecasts say it will warm up to 30 by the end of next week. Just ripe for snow.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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lol, and Dan, no he didn't forget a zero. But forecasts say it will warm up to 30 by the end of next week. Just ripe for snow.
It gets that cold here in midwinter, but it's not even winter yet! The average low here in mid January is in the mid-twenties.

When we get snow, it can sometimes be measured in feet.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Enjoy your blustery stay, I can't think of a better reason for freezing 'em off!
 
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