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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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No more cold A/C

93 3.0, 115,000. R-134 changeover about 2 years ago.
Thank goodness it is cooling off, but when summer rolls around I want to be ready.
After a recent refill/topoff to A/C with R-134, seemed like pressure was a little high. About a week later, my daughter heard a pressure relief sound and saw what appeared to be a whiteish smoke or steam spray come from under the glove box area and the A/C no longer blows cold. Like I said, I have about 6 months to worry about this. I have read about pressure relief valves getting stuck, but are they in the area of the glove box? Could a line be bad?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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You may have overcharged it and blew out a line. Quick way to find out is to try and install another can of r-134 and see where it goes...
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 03:01 AM
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Is the compressor coming on? If not, can you put gauges on the lines to see what the pressures are?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lv2race
93 3.0, 115,000. R-134 changeover about 2 years ago.
Thank goodness it is cooling off, but when summer rolls around I want to be ready.
After a recent refill/topoff to A/C with R-134, seemed like pressure was a little high. About a week later, my daughter heard a pressure relief sound and saw what appeared to be a whiteish smoke or steam spray come from under the glove box area and the A/C no longer blows cold. Like I said, I have about 6 months to worry about this. I have read about pressure relief valves getting stuck, but are they in the area of the glove box? Could a line be bad?
Ok....."in the area of the glove box". Was this inside the car or outside? The reason I ask this, I have a daughter and I am pretty well tuned to the way women describe car problems.....
There are no A/C connections inside the cab. If the spray occurred inside then your evaporator core has sprung a leak and needs to be replaced. The connections to the evaporator are under the hood near the firewall. If the spray happened under the hood it would most likely be the pressure relief valve on the compressor. This is located on the back side of the compressor, and any discharge would be directed in the direction of the glove box, but under the hood.

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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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pull fuse to A/C clutch to disable the compressor until you get the system fixed.....if evaporator has blown? the lube is gone from the system and is not circulating thru the pump....pump will hammer itself into dust with no oil
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Not to worry about the fuse. If charge is lost, compressor will be shut off by the pressure switch.

There are no connections inside the van but if the evap blew, I would expect fog and refrigerant to overpower all air doors and come from all outlets. My bet is a blown evaporator.

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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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System should be empty, compessor clutch does not activate. I will check my manual to see how fun an evaporator core is to replace.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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The evap core is actually not that bad to replace. Since your AC is now empty, you can easily disconnect the lines leading to the accumulator and evap. Remove a few other things around that area, including the blower, for more working room, and you should be able to remove the front of the air box. You will have to remove a bunch of screws from around the perimeter of the box, and some of them are rather hard to reach. The evap core should be just sitting there.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by xlt4wd90
The evap core is actually not that bad to replace. Since your AC is now empty, you can easily disconnect the lines leading to the accumulator and evap. Remove a few other things around that area, including the blower, for more working room, and you should be able to remove the front of the air box. You will have to remove a bunch of screws from around the perimeter of the box, and some of them are rather hard to reach. The evap core should be just sitting there.
The accumulator has to be removed, and also, if you remove the fan it makes the whole process a lot easier. A/C people always recommend that the accumulator be replaced anytime you open the system. You'll need a long extension to get to the couple of screws that are under the blower housing. Other than that it's straight forward. You'll probably be amazed at the crud that has accumulated on the evap core over the years. With the improved air flow through the new one be prepared for some super cool air......

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