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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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Alternator dead??

I have a 2002 Expedition 4X4, 5.4 L, auto trans. Been driving great! But....
Driving on the highway, I notice the voltage gauge dip way down low, then the "BATT" icon lights up, then the "ABS" icon lights up. My radar detector actually has a car batt voltage read out, & it's saying 9.4 and dropping. The voltage dropped so low at times, the dash display reset itself (all gauges went to min, then to max, then settled, all icons lit up in test etc...) all the cabin lights got very dim. Shut the engine off, & I watched the batt voltage climb from 7.9 to 10.8. Won't start though, just does the "clicking" thing, guess its solenoid chatter. Sound like alternator? I was going to check the voltage with the batt cables off, but I had family I had to take places, so we dropped truck off & took the car. Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated!!!
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Could just be the battery. How old is it? Also, make sure the connections are clear of corrosion. I'd pull the battery and get it checked at the local auto store.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Nah I think it's the alternator.. however a bad battery CAN fry the alternator. I'd consider changing both of them, or at least having the battery charged up and then load tested properly.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Why not disconnect the battery while running. If the engine dies I would think alternator. Maybe it could be as simple as replacing the alt. brushes.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Zip
Why not disconnect the battery while running. If the engine dies I would think alternator. Maybe it could be as simple as replacing the alt. brushes.
I don't know for sure, but I seem to remember reading that doing this is not a good idea. Might have been here or in the Mustang forums I frequent (I've also got an '02 Mustang GT 4.6L). Something about interruption in a closed electrical system. If you try it let us know how it turns out.

On another note, I replaced two batteries this year (1 expy and 1 mustang) and both cars did the same things you mentioned...I could jump start the car and it would run but the voltage gauge would jump around and the dash would reset. I'd drive around hoping it would charge the battery (my mustang acted like it wanted to stall at stop signs) and it would never restart without a jump. I too thought the alternator was the culprit.
 

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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Why not disconnect the battery while running. If the engine dies I would think alternator. Maybe it could be as simple as replacing the alt. brushes.
Don't ever disconect the battery with the engine running!!! The battery acts like a filter for the voltage spikes generated by the alternator. Just the Di/Dt from disconecting a battery terminal while running can create voltage spikes that will kill the PCM, and any other electronic components which are sensitive to voltage spikes.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Just drop by any Advance Auto Parts or simular store and most of them have the equip to check you charging system.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Thanks for all the replies everyone!!
Sorry, I forgot to mention I just had the batt replaced with a Die Hard Truck/SUV about a month ago. Also, after pulling on the shoulder & popping the hood when this all 1st started, I yanked on the batt cables and both moved fairly freely. Thinking I had it made, I grabbed a socket and tightened both down hard. In the truck they said the gauges went to normal for a few secs, and jumped back n forth, but never settled for good. Wonder what good it would do to maybe charge the batt over night? I think it measured about 9-10 volts when I left it.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:25 AM
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I would check the batt cables for a loose connection or corrosion build up someplace. It sould like an intermitent problem.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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Its your altenator, same thing happened to my 97 4x4 expedition 2 yrs ago, driving down the highway the dash gauges started to fluctuate thought it was a missfire gave it more gas, the truck and gauges ran fine for about 10-15 more miles then gauges acted up again andthe truck shut down, tried restarting and just click.
Had a feeling it was the alternator because boosting it did nothing more clicking, had it towed to ford dealer and said i think it needs a new alternator. New Altenator installed and its been fine the past 2 yrs.
Hope this helps out.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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Check your voltage regulator as the entire alternator might not be toast. The voltage regulator is a fairly cheap part.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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OK guys, thanks again for all the help! I picked up an alt and replaced it and prob solved. The old one was out of a junk yard, I think, it had big blue magic marker numbers hand written all over it, and it may have been failing for a while, cus even the volt gauge on the truck dash is reading slightly higher than the old one B4 it failed completely. Reading a solid 14.4. HOWEVER, someone must have cracked the tensioner, cus a piece broke off when I tried releiving belt tension to remove belt from the alt! Talk about a SOB trying to push on tensioner with a bar to loosen belt! BUT, it all works OK! Just thought I'd let ya know, cus the way it failed was kinda weird compared to other cars/trucks I've driven/worked on.
 

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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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Cool, glad you got it fixed. Its always nice when people come back and post what the problem was. Thanks.
 
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