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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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spindle nut?

I had to install some new wheel bearings and the instruction say to torque the spindle nut with the pin to 50 ft lbs and then back it off 90 degrees. It then says to install the washer with the holes in it and then torque the nut back down, but if the washer is in the way how do you tighten it back down? Also the last nut you put on is suppose to be torqued at 165-205 ft lbs but I can't get more than 155 ft lbs on it. I just put all new brakes and did the manual hub conversion 3 months ago with all new bearings and my front bearing was in pieces when I pulled it apart,so i'm trying to figure out if I did something wrong the first time.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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The instructions sound a little muddled to me. Here's what I do for wheel brgs:

1. Set the preload of 50 ft-lbs on the wheel bearing with the nut with the pin then back it off 90 degrees. Spin it a couple times and make sure there is no play / movement between the rotor and spindle. If there is, re-torque and back off 90 and check it again.
2. Throw the washer in and make sure that it's in the keyway and the pin is in a hole.
3. Put on the second nut and torque it to 150 ft-lbs (as my haynes says).

That should do it.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 69ford99
It then says to install the washer with the holes in it and then torque the nut back down, but if the washer is in the way how do you tighten it back down? Also the last nut you put on is suppose to be torqued at 165-205 ft lbs but I can't get more than 155 ft lbs on it.
Once you torque the inside nut to 50lbs, then back off 90 degrees, you are done with it. It also helps to spin the hub as you torque it down to seat the bearing. For the outside nut, I torque it down to 150 (the max of my torque wrench) then put a breaker bar on and snug it down a little more.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Have a problem, I didn't get the first nut torqued down to 50 ft lbs yet and the rotor won't turn. Theres a little round cylindrical thing which I believe is for the front abs and I think its rubbing on the back of the abs ring on the back of the rotor.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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Either the sensor is hanging out too far, or the ABS tone ring is not pressed on far enough.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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The drivers side went to together just fine, so I took the rotor off the drivers side and tried to install it on the passenger side. I put the spindle nut on and the rotor still wouldn't turn. So I figure the passenger rotor is fine the problem is else where. I did notice on the passenger side the little cylindrical sensor is dented in a little bit. Not sure if thats the problem, but I had to put another spindle on the passenger side and when I went to take the original spindle off the axle shaft came out with it. So I wasn't sure if it could be another problem or not.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Also its going to get cold outside pretty quick and I was wondering if I could put the rotor on and tighten the spindle down to where it still turns freely so I can put the tire back on so I could move it about 20 feet in to the garage without messing anything up?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Was there any markings on the back of the old rotor from the sensor rubbing against it? When I did my 94's bearings and rotors the parts store really F'ed up and gave me the wrong rotors w/abs ring. The 94's and 95's are very close in design, but are different. The 95's (which may be the same as a 96) are not as deep on the backside, so the grease seal would not reach the seat on the spindle. If you have 94 rotors, they would sit to far back and may rub the sensor. Or it could be something completely different since it seem to fit on the drivers side. Try comparing the spindles on the two sides to make sure someone before you didn't put the wrong spindle on one side. At least you'd be able to eliminate this as a possible cause.

As for moving the truck into the garage, I'm not sure but it sounds ok. Is the axle shaft put back in? If not, it might be best to put the tire on as you suggested and push it into the garage. Maybe someone with much more knowledge than me will chime in.
 

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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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The ABS sensor is dented up a little, like it had been rubbing on the ABS ring. I pulled the ABS sensor out and destroyed it before I knew that they were non adjustable. I put the rotor back on just to see if it still rubbed and its ok but there's another problem. I put the rotor on and torqued the spindle nut to 50 ft lbs and you can pull the rotor in and out. It has about a 1/4 inch of play. I wonder if they gave me the wrong rotor. Is there a difference between rotors as far as manual or auto locking hubs or maybe dfferent gear ratio? One more thing theres 2 seals for the back of the rotor, a metal one the goes in the back of the rotor and a rubber one that goes behind it and sits on the spindle. Ford said they discontiuned the use of the rubber one but if I just use the metal one the rotor won't sit flat against the back of the spindle. So i'm using just the rubber one as it will fit in the back of the rotor and sit on the spindle. Just wondering if maybe that the problem.
 
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