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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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I have a 1988 F150 that I just finished rebuilding the motor in. It is a 4 wheel drive with lockouts, C6, 351W, 3:55 gears. I am not satisfied with my mileage since I started driving it last week. It is getting about 10 mpg and seems to be running great. Plugs look clean and chalky white, exhaust looks clean as well. Maybe I am expecting too much, I am not sure. I was kinda expecting more like 13 mpg. The injectors were professionally cleaned during the rebuild, so I think that should be ok. All sensors are also new, however I did block off the EGR valve during some troubleshooting early on and have not undone that. I would think that would only help mileage. Maybe the engine just needs to be ran for a period of time to break in better? Any ideas will be grealy appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but you are expecting too much. The motor is tight, so it might get a little better. I have a 92 F250, 351W, E4OD, and 3.55's and I get 12-13 in town, and 15-16 on the expressway. I think the 10 neighborhood is about what you're going to get.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Is the 351 stock or modified? Headers? manifolds?
A brand new motor will take some time to loosen up, and milage and power should improve. My experience seems to indicate best hwy milage is obtained when the engine is kept under 2000rpm. That may only be 55-60mph for you depending upon tire size.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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It's a windsor. They stopped making modifieds in the early 80's
 
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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It's a windsor. They stopped making modifieds in the early 80's
Ahhhh... you misunderstood. I was asking if the engine has been modified or if it was stock.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 04:17 AM
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c6 with 3.55 .....it's screaming on the hyw.....
 
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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a chalky white plug means your running a tad lean. have you pulled codes? www.fordfuelinjection.com will show you how. what is your timing set at? stock is 10* btdc with spout connector removed. if your running it easy (55mph & under) during the first 500 miles running dyno oil. get a few oil changes in every 500-1000 miles then once you hit 3000 miles on the motor switch to synthetic.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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I appreciate all the info guys. To answer a couple of questions, yes it is a windsor. No it is not modified. Still has the cat a resonator and 2 1/4" single exhaust into a single turbo muffler and turndown. Set the timing with engine up to temp, spout connector pulled, to 10 degrees BTD. Checked total timing after re-installing the spout connector @approx. 2000 rpm. Came in about 22 degrees. Haven't pulled any codes, since I haven't had a check engine light. Would there be codes to pull? Runs great, just don't like the mileage. I am planning several modifications to help all this out eventually. Probably start with exhaust, since I don't like it the way it is anyway. Also, anyone have a success stories using K&N Filters or high dollar plugs?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jamespud
Still has the cat a resonator and 2 1/4" single exhaust into a single turbo muffler and turndown.
OUCH!!! That's not helping...

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Probably start with exhaust, since I don't like it the way it is anyway.
Good idea. Headers and at least a single 2.5" exhaust will help milage and power.

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Also, anyone have a success stories using K&N Filters or high dollar plugs?
Nope. Waste of money.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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How about those throttle body vortex spacers? Anyone want to give me a testimonial about them? They are supposed to improve gas mileage and horsepower. I don't believe everything I read, especially when written by a salesman.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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How about those throttle body vortex spacers?
More snake oil. They do work on carbed or throttle body efi motors though.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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The K&N style filters are NEVER a waste of dollars. TB spacers and high dollar plugs are. The K&N's flow more air and are reuseable, and these two facts make it a good deal for the money. If your mileage increases due to the engine not having to suck as hard to pull in air, it will improve the mileage some, how much is a 64 million dollar question. Also helps to remove the factory intake silencer leading into the air cleaner box. Even Ford recommends this mod in addition to a K&N style filter in the Ford Racing catalog and their 5.0 book.
 

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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Thanks again guys. I have already removed the intake tube going to the airbox that mounts on the top of the core support. I was thinking about making a new one though that pulls air from somewhere other than on top of the radiator. It just doesn't seem right to pull air in from above a heat source. Probably have to break down and buy some shorty headers and redo my exhuast to make a real difference. One the guys commented that it is screaming down the highway with 3.55's and a C6, he could not be more accurate. Thinking about changing to taller tires which would drop the rpm at highway speeds.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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the f250/f350's running a 460 use a tube that runs next to the radiator to the air box and is a popular mod. if you look on the core support you will see the opening already there.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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I just re-checked my timing last night and found that it was about 13 degrees advanced instead of 10, so I changed it to 10. Not sure if that will make any difference on mileage or not, but worth a try. Evidently something has changed since we set it initially or maybe I didn't get it right to start with.
 
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