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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Cool o617 flash

I had 0617 flash done on a recall at my 15,000 mile check. I noticed loss of power and returned vehicle imediately, had very heated arguments with dealership to no avail. was told thats what i get., and they can't remove flash. I have had to live with loss of power, and a loss of about 3 to 4
miles per gal. for at least 6 months. I now have read 0n your forum that maybe reflash wasn't performed properly, and that many people have had same problem. I have not read any answers
that anyone taking their truck back and having prob. esolved after applying the correct method of performing the reflash? Also removing all batt. power for 10 minutes, do I need to follow any certain restart sequence and will it do any good. Thanks for your help.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Our resident technicians will be around soon. If you lost power the flash was not performed correctly.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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disconnect the batteries on night before bed. when you get up reconnect the batteries. switch truck on twice. then let truck warm up for at least 5 minutes. then go floggin'. i cant promise anything bout the mileage, but your power should come back. if it doesnt then you have a issue but not with the program.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Bowtie...don't you mean cycle the key two times to the on position, then restart truck? I have seen that written on here by another tech.

Yes, it is very frustrating to get the recall flash, then loose power and mileage. It has happened to me. I went through the battery disconnect, power is a little better but not the same as off the assembly line new. I used to get 16 mpg all the time but can't even get that on the highway now. Dealer of course claims nothing is wrong. I am going back this month for try number two on topic and another issue.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by _carlos
I had 0617 flash done on a recall at my 15,000 mile check. I noticed loss of power and returned vehicle imediately, had very heated arguments with dealership to no avail. was told thats what i get., and they can't remove flash. I have had to live with loss of power, and a loss of about 3 to 4
miles per gal. for at least 6 months. I now have read 0n your forum that maybe reflash wasn't performed properly, and that many people have had same problem. I have not read any answers
that anyone taking their truck back and having prob. esolved after applying the correct method of performing the reflash? Also removing all batt. power for 10 minutes, do I need to follow any certain restart sequence and will it do any good. Thanks for your help.
I haven't gone back for an attempted reflash fix because 1. no time 2. its like pulling teeth to get them to do rework 3. they have the truck for 2 to 3 days for anything, and that means i have to get a rental car. 4. Money, money, money.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Bowtie...don't you mean cycle the key two times to the on position, then restart truck? I have seen that written on here by another tech.
i said that, if i am not clear i am sorry.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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GLAMIS try to find another dealer. 2-3 days for a flash is uncalled for.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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What year is your truck?? I have an '05 PSD and have not had any recall with that ID. I did have a couple of them done on notification, but they didn't hurt performance.

Bill in KY
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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that recall did not apply to 05s just 03 and early o4s.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Thanks. I surely would hate to have missed it.

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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxium4x4
Welcome to FTE _carlos
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Our resident technicians will be around soon. If you lost power the flash was not performed correctly.
Is it easy for the tech's to mess up the flash? it sure seems to happen alot. It didn't happen the first three years.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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By cycling the key twice, then let it idle, it teaches the computer the idle strategy for the EGR to be closed. Once it learns this... then you can drive.

My tech did the PCM upgrade/re-flash and just started it per the "on-screen" instructions... and maybe he did cycle the ignition... but he did let it idle.

I would try it and see... and they can always re-flash (or at least hook up to the computer again) and see if any codes or "issues" show up. I know that on my techs system... if the computer he has senses that my PCM is at the current level of prgramming... nothing will download... since all is well and at current PCM programming level.

By the way... took my tech 20 - 30 minutes to reflash each time I have been in over the last 3 years.

Good luck,
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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I did the battery disconnect and started the truck next day, truck seems to have more power but won't know for sure until I pull my trailer. thanks I still would like them to do the reflash properly, since they may have reprogramed the transmission at the same time. The loss in power would make the transmission kick down a gear when I would try to pass another vehicle even when I used medium pressure on the gas pedal.
thanks alot for the info. at least now I have some ammo to take to the dealer.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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everything is usually updated depending on when you have the reflask. due to the learning strategy for only the pcm is effected when improperly done.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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I have been dodging the reflash with my California 04 and they just renewed my registration last week without the reflash. Got lucky I guess.
 
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