Menards Problem
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I can understand your dilemma, but that’s what a job is all about. The indignation your willing to endure in order to achieve the appropriate numbers of 0’s on a paycheck to put the smile back on your face. In other words, suck it up! Theft is a problem. I can just hear your employer saying ‘are you sure we can’t give them a cavity search too?’ Only you can determine when the indignation doesn’t come with enough 0’s on the paycheck to make it worthwhile. Resolve yourself to endure it with a smile or work elsewhere. And don’t bother to argue the point, unless you feel you have enough clout to change the policy. Good luck.
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well, if you don't like being searched, never ever get a job that requires any kind of clearances and also don't join the military or alot of other federal agencies, as they get searched alot going in and out. i use to do it all the time!
as far as the job you have, that whole policy and procedures thing you signed, you agreed to abide by it. you have the freedom to quit. and you also have the freedom to bring it up the management chain and complain and try to change it also.
as far as the job you have, that whole policy and procedures thing you signed, you agreed to abide by it. you have the freedom to quit. and you also have the freedom to bring it up the management chain and complain and try to change it also.
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From: Portsmouth, VA
I worked for Home Depot for 3 years and we had this same policy.
Heck one time when I had first started I was outside working. It was snowing, was supposed to be in the 50's, and I was totally unprepared. Went into the building, purchased a coat that Depot sells and was instructed to write all kinds of numbers all over it (receipt number in a couple of places). Then we were told that we could no longer wear any typing of clothing or gloves that were sold by Home Depot. That really sucked because if you ripped your gloves and wanted a good pair (the ones they gave us sucked) you'd have to go to the auto store or Lowes.
Retail is retail, no matter where you go. They are going to search you like you just finished cleaning them out no matter who you are. There is good reason, too many companies have taken a lot of hits from employees. I personally know someone that was a manager of a fast food resteraunt. This person stole a $10,000.00 deposit. They could not prove it that this person did it and now they handle money at another retail store. Of couse since she has been there, money has constantly come up missing but this person has still not been caught.
- Chris
Heck one time when I had first started I was outside working. It was snowing, was supposed to be in the 50's, and I was totally unprepared. Went into the building, purchased a coat that Depot sells and was instructed to write all kinds of numbers all over it (receipt number in a couple of places). Then we were told that we could no longer wear any typing of clothing or gloves that were sold by Home Depot. That really sucked because if you ripped your gloves and wanted a good pair (the ones they gave us sucked) you'd have to go to the auto store or Lowes.
Retail is retail, no matter where you go. They are going to search you like you just finished cleaning them out no matter who you are. There is good reason, too many companies have taken a lot of hits from employees. I personally know someone that was a manager of a fast food resteraunt. This person stole a $10,000.00 deposit. They could not prove it that this person did it and now they handle money at another retail store. Of couse since she has been there, money has constantly come up missing but this person has still not been caught.
- Chris
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From: Damascus-Boring, Ore
Originally Posted by Peter94
I'm 19. I've worked retail since i was 14. I started in a smaller town with a population less than 10,000 at an ace hardware store. Small mom and pop place, great place to work, good environment, etc. I quit at the age of 17 due to them paying me a grand total of $6.30/hour after 3 years experience. The job had much more informational value than it did monetary. Just about people, and business, and hardware in general. At the age of 18 I worked at Holiday gas station, which was my first real "corprate" experience of retail, only stayed there for a short period of time, like september until march of the following year. I got the job at menards which would be this past April.
For the last 2 summers I worked for a nearby city's water/wastewater department, which was probably why i'm so upset with menards. Basically at the city, i woke up every morning, drove to this city, was at work by 7:30 in the morning, got into my own work truck with my own responsiblities and knowing what they are, i would carry them out. I took alot of pride in that job, because you were recognized for the things you did, and people respected you and trusted you. Probably the best job i've ever had. Then I quit that job because i moved to now a good almost hour one way drive. Now i'm working at menards, where they practially hold your hand through the job, and make you feel like a criminal. I'm just not used to that, and i really dont want to get used to that idea. That would be why i'm taking so much offense to this whole deal. Its just not what i'm used to. And yes, i know the world is full of this crap, and that is what sucks. Plus, if anyone has worked for a smaller department or employer, they know what i'm talking about. But yeah, i dont mean to freak out at you guys, i'm just kinda high blood pressure right now. If nothing else thanks for letting me freak out.
For the last 2 summers I worked for a nearby city's water/wastewater department, which was probably why i'm so upset with menards. Basically at the city, i woke up every morning, drove to this city, was at work by 7:30 in the morning, got into my own work truck with my own responsiblities and knowing what they are, i would carry them out. I took alot of pride in that job, because you were recognized for the things you did, and people respected you and trusted you. Probably the best job i've ever had. Then I quit that job because i moved to now a good almost hour one way drive. Now i'm working at menards, where they practially hold your hand through the job, and make you feel like a criminal. I'm just not used to that, and i really dont want to get used to that idea. That would be why i'm taking so much offense to this whole deal. Its just not what i'm used to. And yes, i know the world is full of this crap, and that is what sucks. Plus, if anyone has worked for a smaller department or employer, they know what i'm talking about. But yeah, i dont mean to freak out at you guys, i'm just kinda high blood pressure right now. If nothing else thanks for letting me freak out.
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But yeah, i dont mean to freak out at you guys, i'm just kinda high blood pressure right now. If nothing else thanks for letting me freak out.[/QUOTE]
Came to the right site for this.......If you really want high BP or getting to freak out...join a political discussion........(haha)......If you really want freedom, invent a popular dot.com (a la "google")......sell it to the public for a cool coupla bil'....then you can come to work in flip flops and cut-off jeans if you want, while a couple of legal and CPA firms wearing all the proper "stuffy" attire do the sweat work for you. It's the American way!!!
Came to the right site for this.......If you really want high BP or getting to freak out...join a political discussion........(haha)......If you really want freedom, invent a popular dot.com (a la "google")......sell it to the public for a cool coupla bil'....then you can come to work in flip flops and cut-off jeans if you want, while a couple of legal and CPA firms wearing all the proper "stuffy" attire do the sweat work for you. It's the American way!!!
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From: St. Peter
Originally Posted by Code3
It could be worse. Anybody remember that movie ("New Jack City" I think) where the crack dealer made his "employees" work naked so they wouldn't steal while they were making rocks? 
"Hey where do you guys keep your....OH MY GOD!"
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From: SW VA
Originally Posted by Code3
It could be worse. Anybody remember that movie ("New Jack City" I think) where the crack dealer made his "employees" work naked so they wouldn't steal while they were making rocks?
I plead the 5th to anything asked further on this topic...
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From: 3rd Rock
Originally Posted by monsterbaby
Let me give you one that will make you feel real bad (since you mentioned automotive stuff as a possible future job) I used to be a mechanic at a Chev garage, we had to furnish our own tools, well snap on used to give out calenders with topless women on them, well at the time I was working a mech in a different garage had one of those calenders in his drawer of his personal tool box. During his lunch hour one of the secrataries from the front wanted a screwdriver for some reason and just walked into the shop opened his tool box to get one found the calender and was offended, proceeded to sue both the mechanic and the dealership and won a $50,000 sexual harrasment lawsuit over it. Now that wasn't stuck on teh top of the tool box it was in a closed drawer were the only way to find it was to search through his personal tools. Now think about the note again and hope the person searching your cooler as per company policy (rather than just pifering through your stuff without your knowledge) doesn't sue you for sexual harrasment.
Go figure....what we are becoming in this society, Lawsuit happy.
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All ther reasoning in the world isn't going to change the concept of " Signing an agreement" shows you agree with the aggreement/contract.
If you don't want to be a part of this system, don't sign or don't work there.
It's no different than signing a waiver when you rent a go-cart or before you parachute from a perfectly running aircraft.
That's why Signature means: you agree to the preciding text.
If you don't want to be a part of this system, don't sign or don't work there.
It's no different than signing a waiver when you rent a go-cart or before you parachute from a perfectly running aircraft.
That's why Signature means: you agree to the preciding text.
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From: St. Peter
Yeah, you all know how that works though, just like the credit card agreement. At the orientation they give you the bums rush and have you sign on. I havent seen it anywhere yet that says as a team member i have to let my personal belongings BE searched. The only thing i found just listed searching team members as a duty of the head cashier. But i can bet there will be a something in there somewhere that says it anyway. I really didnt have an option as i was signing on either. I was moving away to college, I was applying during the college rush, meaning that jobs were pretty tough to find in kato. I dont have the money to just not have a job. Now that i have a chance to find one elsewhere i will. So far every retail job i have quit has led to bigger and better things.
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Nothing illegal about, the constitution - 4th amendment - "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." This applies to the government, not to private citizens or companies. It is within their rights to have that as a condition of employment, it is up to the individual to determine whether or not they want to work at a company that has that as a condition. It has absolutely nothing to do with trust. It has everything to do with employee theft accounting for as much as shoplifters when it comes to money/merchandise walking out the door. I worked for a company that did the same thing while I was getting my degree in criminal justice. The loss prevention manager trusted me completely, but that did not stop him from searching my backpack - the only way these companies get into trouble is if they don't apply their rules equally to all employees. The way you described how you would leave the job, handshakes for the managers, doesn't really jibe with the whole "kiss my ..." note. Here's hoping the former is more a testament to your character and the later was a "in the heat of the moment" lapse of judgement.
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Originally Posted by monsterbaby
Let me give you one that will make you feel real bad (since you mentioned automotive stuff as a possible future job) I used to be a mechanic at a Chev garage, we had to furnish our own tools, well snap on used to give out calenders with topless women on them, well at the time I was working a mech in a different garage had one of those calenders in his drawer of his personal tool box. During his lunch hour one of the secrataries from the front wanted a screwdriver for some reason and just walked into the shop opened his tool box to get one found the calender and was offended, proceeded to sue both the mechanic and the dealership and won a $50,000 sexual harrasment lawsuit over it. Now that wasn't stuck on teh top of the tool box it was in a closed drawer were the only way to find it was to search through his personal tools. Now think about the note again and hope the person searching your cooler as per company policy (rather than just pifering through your stuff without your knowledge) doesn't sue you for sexual harrasment.