400 tbi problems
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400m wont start
im new and i need help
i have a 1977 ford ranchero with a 400 and i installed a holley commander 950
fuel injection and i also installed a msd 6
ingition box with a ford computer controlled disributor,and tfi module so the holley would control the timing my problem is the car wont start it just cranks
is there a base map for this engine i m using the 302stock map and all sensor are working . i think im not getting and spark so any help on that would be helpful
thanks
i have a 1977 ford ranchero with a 400 and i installed a holley commander 950
fuel injection and i also installed a msd 6
ingition box with a ford computer controlled disributor,and tfi module so the holley would control the timing my problem is the car wont start it just cranks
is there a base map for this engine i m using the 302stock map and all sensor are working . i think im not getting and spark so any help on that would be helpful
thanks
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Welcome to FTE! This forum is for introducing yourself. Your best bet would be to click FORUMS at the top left then scroll down to the 400 engine forum. You will get some help there. Enjoy the site. 
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400 tbi problems
im new and i need help
i have a 1977 ford ranchero with a 400 and i installed a holley commander 950
fuel injection and i also installed a msd 6
ingition box with a ford computer controlled disributor,and tfi module so the holley would control the timing my problem is the car wont start it just cranks
is there a base map for this engine i m using the 302stock map and all sensor are working . i think im not getting and spark so any help on that would be helpful
thanks
i have a 1977 ford ranchero with a 400 and i installed a holley commander 950
fuel injection and i also installed a msd 6
ingition box with a ford computer controlled disributor,and tfi module so the holley would control the timing my problem is the car wont start it just cranks
is there a base map for this engine i m using the 302stock map and all sensor are working . i think im not getting and spark so any help on that would be helpful
thanks
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First thing first is the distributor. Just have to ask the obvious question, did you use the 460 distributor or the 302 distributor? The two have a different geard that run on the cam. The 400 uses the 460 distributor gear on the cam.
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What part # do you have of the commander series? It should be long and start with a 9. I went to the holley site, and they have instructions there. But there are a lot of different commander systems. The one I picked was for a big block chevy, and required a crank trigger for the ignition.
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Originally Posted by alxsnmr
First thing first is the distributor. Just have to ask the obvious question, did you use the 460 distributor or the 302 distributor? The two have a different geard that run on the cam. The 400 uses the 460 distributor gear on the cam.
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
What part # do you have of the commander series? It should be long and start with a 9. I went to the holley site, and they have instructions there. But there are a lot of different commander systems. The one I picked was for a big block chevy, and required a crank trigger for the ignition.
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The first thing I would do is take the MSD box out of the system. Wire it with the Ford dist and the stock coil and see what happens.
You didn't hook up the yellow wire did you? They say it will blow the computer up if you are using a MSD and use the yellow wire too.
You didn't hook up the yellow wire did you? They say it will blow the computer up if you are using a MSD and use the yellow wire too.
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
The first thing I would do is take the MSD box out of the system. Wire it with the Ford dist and the stock coil and see what happens.
You didn't hook up the yellow wire did you? They say it will blow the computer up if you are using a MSD and use the yellow wire too.
You didn't hook up the yellow wire did you? They say it will blow the computer up if you are using a MSD and use the yellow wire too.
no i did not use the yellow wire
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I have one of these on my 390.
It sounds like it's in the wiring. I would go back to Holley's instructions, and follow the wiring diagram found on page 101, figure 75. Double check the wiring if you've already done it. The instructions should have came with the system, or can be found here:
http://www.holley.com/data/Products/...99R10149-7.pdf
For a test you might want to leave the MSD out of the system and wire it up like they show on page 100.
Assuming that doesn't work, double check the wiring, paying special attention to grounds and power connections. Leave nothing to chance.
There is also a little relay that needs to be plugged in to a connector on the wiring harness; it's easy to forget that.
It sounds like it's in the wiring. I would go back to Holley's instructions, and follow the wiring diagram found on page 101, figure 75. Double check the wiring if you've already done it. The instructions should have came with the system, or can be found here:
http://www.holley.com/data/Products/...99R10149-7.pdf
For a test you might want to leave the MSD out of the system and wire it up like they show on page 100.
Assuming that doesn't work, double check the wiring, paying special attention to grounds and power connections. Leave nothing to chance.
There is also a little relay that needs to be plugged in to a connector on the wiring harness; it's easy to forget that.
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Originally Posted by rusty70f100
I have one of these on my 390.
It sounds like it's in the wiring. I would go back to Holley's instructions, and follow the wiring diagram found on page 101, figure 75. Double check the wiring if you've already done it. The instructions should have came with the system, or can be found here:
http://www.holley.com/data/Products/Technical/199R10149-7.pdf
For a test you might want to leave the MSD out of the system and wire it up like they show on page 100.
Assuming that doesn't work, double check the wiring, paying special attention to grounds and power connections. Leave nothing to chance.
There is also a little relay that needs to be plugged in to a connector on the wiring harness; it's easy to forget that.
It sounds like it's in the wiring. I would go back to Holley's instructions, and follow the wiring diagram found on page 101, figure 75. Double check the wiring if you've already done it. The instructions should have came with the system, or can be found here:
http://www.holley.com/data/Products/Technical/199R10149-7.pdf
For a test you might want to leave the MSD out of the system and wire it up like they show on page 100.
Assuming that doesn't work, double check the wiring, paying special attention to grounds and power connections. Leave nothing to chance.
There is also a little relay that needs to be plugged in to a connector on the wiring harness; it's easy to forget that.
